The new league draw system

[nikolgiorgos]

I also check some teams from my CH.L. competition



This is the mighty Arlingseboys, from group B.
Playing in a tough league

against those opponents




this is another team from CH.L. , Drab

Drab has a very strong competitor this season, Uds


and some of the best teams teams of his league



So, I still don't understand why I 'm playing with the same strong teams every season while there are abandoned teams which winning titles very season with their 0T academy players.
Why abandoned ?
I explained it some previous posts .

Check for example the profile of one of the teams above.
He got the "game over" achievement - probably trolled hard some poor guy but after two years he doesn't have yet the domination achievement (victory with 5-0 or more).

The other achvm. was that he played for 5 days in a row - amazed

[nikolgiorgos]

forgot to post the achvm

[nikolgiorgos]

LV21 and another league with this silly system by quality.
This season I 'm playing with JUVENTUS, the winner of previous season CH.L.
(check this http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...-league-4.html #34 and back)
Tansin, the top dog of this season CH.L. (same thread #35) , Dereli, the runner up of my previous league and many more good teams.
The league


some teams the first day of the season (of course they will improve later)

[Andrew Nifield]

I wish mine was the same, have of the teams look to be have abandoned....gonna be a race for who can thrash those 7 teams the most probably.

[nikolgiorgos]

I wish mine was the same, have of the teams look to be have abandoned....gonna be a race for who can thrash those 7 teams the most probably.

you can build a "competitive" team with 0T academy players and 3* retired veterans and have a "challenging" league
The only difference in challenge is that in the first case you spend a bunch of T and boosters and in the second case none

Actually there is a forum member (but not visiting the forum often), Amane Ito, who playing the game like this.
He builds his team mostly with his 0T academy players and have a great success.

[Duncton]

I get a little sad every time I read this topic.

[nikolgiorgos]

I get a little sad every time I read this topic.

If they continue this silly thing, I really start thinking to play this way - manipulating my league by Q.
I strongly disagree with that, I stayed in the same level some times because of that but doesn't help.

[Tactician]

If they continue this silly thing, I really start thinking to play this way - manipulating my league by Q.
I strongly disagree with that, I stayed in the same level some times because of that but doesn't help.

Nordeus will tell you they have done that so that the other weaker teams can have a better chance, the same 'excuse' that they will probably give for why a team has to face teams 3 levels higher in the Cup. But, don't you think that all this was done to boost the business? Serious users will be put together in the same league, and thus they will have to spend more money (or complete more offers) to gain advantages over the others. For the Cup, serious users will be put to play against higher level teams, and thus will have to improve their team even more if they want to have a significant chance to win the Cup.

[nikolgiorgos]

I started this thread last June, after I noticed that this isn't random.
Few weeks later there was an official announcement from top eleven, that this was a decision to make more fair the competition
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...aw-system.html
Of course it's obvious that's not the reason because if the game would like to be fair, this should happened to all competitions and levels.
The Cup should have a limit in levels (1 lv dif. max), the CH.L. shouldn't have mix of levels (if there aren't enough teams to complete a CH.L. group, teams from 5th or 6th position should promote and not from a lv bellow).
And of course in the competitions of higher levels, where almost in every one there are mixed level teams because of the lack of managers and different servers.
Is this q league draw a challenge for the players to spend more ?
I don't think so. The teams who are promote to play in "easy" leagues, never spent and will never do as they just don't follow the game. You can see that form their achievements
For example, playing the game for two years and having the mongul 1 achvm ? bought only 30 players from the beginning of the game

This league draw was a reason I stayed 4 times in the same level, meaning not spending anything. I also think to do the same this season.
And it's not only me. It's very often to see managers who "lost" seasons, with their will or not.
In my league this season, half of the teams won't promote and those team have 5* and 6* players.
Those managers, after some first results gonna loose their interest to the league as there is no hope for a title or CHL. promotion or even promote to the next league lv.
They 're not gonna spend this season and probably not much in the next season too, as they already have a ready team of 5-6* players.
So, what for is this q league draw ?
I don't know, some failed idea ?
It's not the first one.
As they give us the space here not only to post different subjects but some suggestions too, I started this thread so maybe some day a guy who is good in marketing get some ideas for the good of both - company and players.
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...marketing.html

[Tactician]

I started this thread last June, after I noticed that this isn't random.

Is this q league draw a challenge for the players to spend more ?
I don't think so. The teams who are promote to play in "easy" leagues, never spent and will never do as they just don't follow the game. You can see that form their achievements
For example, playing the game for two years and having the mongul 1 achvm ? bought only 30 players from the beginning of the game
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...marketing.html

Users of such teams are classified as non-serious users. Hence, they are unlikely to spend money and/or complete offers as compared to the other type of user that are likely to be put in 5-7 stars league. So, on the business side of view it is better to put the non-serious users together, and put the serious users together. If serious and non-serious users are put together, serious users will feel less need to improve their team significantly as compared to when they have been put in a mostly serious-user league. The higher the level and the tougher a competition is, the more there is the need for a serious user to improve his team as advantages in quality will likely be very significant in such cases for deciding the top 4 and top 6. Why can't you see that?

'playing the game for two years and having the mongul 1 achvm ? bought only 30 players from the beginning of the game' Such users are probably non-serious users. So, it is better to group them together as they will not likely contribute directly or indirectly to the revenue of the company for the case of the league (for example, directly: buy tokens; indirectly: cause other users to buy tokens). But, they may contribute indirectly for the case of the Cup.

Why the selection is done based on quality? Consider the denotation P(X) to be the probability of the event X to occur. For a particular level, P(a team is managed by a serious user) is significantly greater than P(a team is managed by a non-serious user) when the team's average quality relative to its level is greater. The P(serious user to spend money or complete offers) is greater than the P(non-serious user to spend money or complete offers). This is an example of how statistics are used to make business decisions.

A similar approach can be used for the Cup.
P(the lower level team is managed by the serious a user) is greater than the P(the higher level team is managed by a serious user). Hence, P(serious user from the lower level will spend or complete offers) has been increased as he has been put to compete against higher level teams.

These probabilities are well respected for the lower-mid, mid and mid-higher levels. Hence, this concern the majority of active serious users - the major fraction of users that are expected to contribute significantly to the revenue of the company. The probabilities are likely not be well-respected at the extremes (very lower levels, for example level 1 and 2, and very high levels, for example 30+).

Very few serious users use the method of tanking and/or draw fooling in this game. You have seen it based on how you play the game. See it on the serious-user, token buyer or non-tanker side of the game. See it as a businessman. It is clear that the change in how the league draws are done was a business move.