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    The new star system (and the negotiation list)

    EDIT NO2
    IT SEEMS THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND NOW A PLAYER WITH 19,39,59,79,99,119, ... QUALITY IS IN NEGOTIATIONS LIST WITHOUT THE DETAILS WE ARE TALKING IN THE FOLLOWING POSTS.
    AS THE MATTER OF FACT, IT IS POSSIBLE TO GET AN OFFER FOR A PLAYER OF 98 OR 97 QUALITY.



    * EDIT - the correct method and example is in post #36 and #46

    With the new update, many managers complain because their players in negotiation list moved in the next star and now they are in the beginning of the next level.
    This is happening because there is a different calculation in stars and quality now.
    It's the the sum of the three categories divided by 3 and making round number if it's above 0,5.
    An example
    30+30+29,8 > 89,8/3=29,93 >30
    The new star system  (and the negotiation list)-duncan.jpg
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    GK Gomes

    114+114+116=344 >> 344/3=114,66 >>115
    with the old system/version , this player is 5 sp from the next star !
    The new star system  (and the negotiation list)-gk-1.jpg
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    Amr
    272,2 + 277,4 + 277,2=826,3 /3=275,6 >276
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    276,4+275,2+275,2=826,3 /3=275,6 >276
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    46+58,8+58=162,8 > 162,8/3=54,26 > 54
    With the old system, we calculate 46 + 58,8 +58 >> (46 + 3,8 +3) + 55 +55 >> 52,8 +55 +55 , so we 're saying that could add 10 more sp (10 X0,2=2) and keep our player in negotiation list.

    With the new system, if we add 5 sp then it's 47 + 58,8 +58=163,8 >> 163,8/3=54,6 >>55 next star
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    questions and comments are welcome but lets try to be on topic and not generally about the new update
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    I am afraid your explanation is incorrect.

    Nunez's average quality (182.8+176.6+180)/3 = 179.8

    According to your theory, his average quality will be round up to 180. But this is a special case that I have not yet signed this player. I still need to sign him to final confirm.

    The new star system  (and the negotiation list)-nunez-skills.jpg

    I guess that under new system, system count SA, and/or other attributes that we did not consider in the past, in calculation of average quality. But I lack data to check.

    Edit:
    Probably, any SA add 0.5 to average quality now.
    Last edited by cookizzz; 02-14-2016 at 05:08 AM.

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    hey, you 're right cook, thanks for your constructive post. I hope more people will help by noticing as it seems my calculation isn't correct.
    A friend of mine, with the players of #3 asked me and as I was reading posts why some players got the 6*, I start some test with my players but it wasn't accurate.

    So, let's study and test more
    Another player Lucio (from another team I have ), also didn't get the 6*.
    25,2+ 24,2 + 25=74,4 /3=24,8
    Why
    The new star system  (and the negotiation list)-lucio-old-1.jpg
    The new star system  (and the negotiation list)-lucio-new-1.jpg



    Probably, any SA add 0.5 to average quality now.
    no, it's not that, as Lucio had one-to-one sa and this didn't count to get the 6* at the first image.
    Unless it was a penalty cause of his useless sa - LOL
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    I trained him, he got 1 sp and when I gave it, he became 6*
    The new star system  (and the negotiation list)-lucio-old-2.jpg
    The new star system  (and the negotiation list)-lucio-new-2.jpg
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    Edit:
    I'm not sure, after reviewing the quality and "percentage" of the sample player you just posted. In case the unassigned sp are included in calculation, the player should have added a new star before further training.

    I wonder if new attribute are considered in new system. These are probably relating to GK.


    Edit:
    I just signed my player mentioned above, and found that his quality dropped after signing.
    http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...r-signing.html

    Now his new average quality is 179.467 and he is still 5 star. Your theory is still valid
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    This is Thamnidis, a 0T academy player from my team NIK. I keep him for dropping the quality of the team (yea, it's about the cup thing ).
    So far, I added his sp to extra role and sa but I had him 2 sp from the next star and not 1 because I didn't want him to be in negotiation list and get silly 0T offers.
    After the new update, I started to have some offers from lower level managers (and not friends of mine), so I thought he must be in nego list now.
    I went in the new version and I can see that his skills fit for that
    The new star system  (and the negotiation list)-thamnidis-offer.jpg
    The new star system  (and the negotiation list)-thamnidis-offer-new-v.jpg

    updating my theory :
    I think the calculation of adding the three columns divided by 3 and having the avg might be the right way but ...
    -the "translation" between the old and the new system isn't accurate
    -something changes with the digits
    So, better watching the quality/skills with the new version and not the old one.
    At that point, I want to say that if a player is in negotiation list , we must have a warning, a sign from the game, specially now with that confusing training system !
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