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nikolgiorgos Pros and cons in power... 03-10-2016, 08:42 PM
Arion I do the 4 training as... 03-11-2016, 04:58 AM
Bunzo Im sticking with the old... 03-11-2016, 12:40 PM
nikolgiorgos gain more to what ? ... 03-11-2016, 01:05 PM
Arion Training points, used to gain... 03-16-2016, 01:07 PM
Matteo de Clemente Hi, I think the... 03-16-2016, 02:28 PM
skrrr I've power trained a few... 03-16-2016, 02:53 PM
nikolgiorgos Are you sure about that ? ... 03-16-2016, 03:11 PM
skrrr Well, I haven't done any... 03-16-2016, 05:15 PM
gizzmo Yeah, definitely. Going to... 03-16-2016, 06:09 PM
nikolgiorgos Yes, that's logic because sp... 03-16-2016, 06:38 PM
gizzmo Nope. Not less green but more... 03-22-2016, 11:44 AM
jahrnee @nikololgiorgos hw to counter... 03-21-2016, 04:38 PM
Bunzo Try power training your team ... 03-21-2016, 05:11 PM
nikolgiorgos sorry, I didn't see your post... 03-23-2016, 03:08 PM
motrin Just did a mini experiment. I... 03-25-2016, 03:08 PM
motrin Same guy: Old system 124%... 03-25-2016, 03:41 PM
nikolgiorgos I also did that but I got... 03-25-2016, 05:07 PM
nikolgiorgos a new player I bought this... 04-07-2016, 04:15 PM
nikolgiorgos I bought a young fast trainer... 04-08-2016, 04:22 PM
nikolgiorgos I set few fast trainers in... 05-05-2016, 08:51 PM
Andrew Nifield Maybe it goes down if you do... 05-05-2016, 11:50 PM
Bunzo No 50-70 green packs should... 05-06-2016, 08:55 AM
Duncton I think your players... 05-06-2016, 08:13 AM
nikolgiorgos yeah, probably that happened.... 05-06-2016, 05:12 PM
Duncton Yes, if you care about the... 05-06-2016, 06:33 PM
nikolgiorgos forgot to say also about the... 05-06-2016, 06:52 PM
Andrew Nifield I still have 6 at level 50, I... 05-07-2016, 04:42 AM
nikolgiorgos This season I found two... 05-07-2016, 07:55 AM
Medo zalata No in new version maybe less... 05-07-2016, 12:12 PM
nikolgiorgos I 've done some measures and... 05-07-2016, 12:59 PM
Craig Gareppo Hi, I keep seeing the... 05-10-2016, 11:41 AM
nikolgiorgos read this... 05-11-2016, 08:36 PM
Craig Gareppo Thanks for that 05-12-2016, 01:28 PM
Daniel Linter How can we determine if a... 05-14-2016, 01:49 PM
Medo zalata A fast trainer: 1. Young... 05-14-2016, 04:50 PM
nash123 I also think, it depends on... 05-20-2016, 12:10 PM
nikolgiorgos maybe you have a point here... 05-20-2016, 02:11 PM
nash123 Maybe... I'm really... 05-20-2016, 03:45 PM
nikolgiorgos be careful , an exhausted... 05-20-2016, 03:59 PM
nash123 I know, but I don't care,... 05-20-2016, 09:30 PM
HoofDaddy Fully rested with packs, or... 05-21-2016, 05:59 PM
nikolgiorgos indeed and maybe that's... 05-21-2016, 06:30 PM
nash123 Maybe... but why it happen... 05-22-2016, 04:37 PM
Tactician It is very likely that this... 05-23-2016, 06:06 AM
Ibrahim Bavari My players crawl cause I... 05-22-2016, 07:11 PM
nikolgiorgos You have a point here. This... 05-24-2016, 07:11 PM
nash123 I didn't make a screenshot at... 05-25-2016, 02:26 PM
Al Svanberg Hi guys! Thanks for a... 07-04-2016, 01:48 PM
nikolgiorgos it's the training in the new... 07-04-2016, 04:33 PM
Al Svanberg Thanks so much nikolgiorgos,... 07-04-2016, 04:55 PM
nikolgiorgos btw, the best investment for... 07-04-2016, 04:58 PM
nash123 I made some tests today,... 07-12-2016, 01:18 PM
nikolgiorgos probably you're right I 'll... 07-12-2016, 08:16 PM
babarkhurshid I have a fast trainer with... 07-14-2016, 08:56 AM
babarkhurshid Can I train only one player... 07-14-2016, 08:50 AM
nash123 Look at his keyattributes.... 07-14-2016, 09:32 AM
nikolgiorgos hey nash, it would be... 07-14-2016, 03:23 PM
nash123 I can't tell it exactly,... 07-15-2016, 08:49 PM
nikolgiorgos ok, as i managed finally to... 07-16-2016, 08:33 PM
nash123 Nik, nice first try. :) I... 07-17-2016, 11:06 AM
nikolgiorgos The main question isn't "how... 07-19-2016, 05:40 PM
nash123 Sry for the late post, but I... 08-01-2016, 09:32 PM
Al Svanberg Nash, great stuff! BTW, is... 08-02-2016, 02:21 PM
nash123 Ahm... I think, condition... 08-02-2016, 07:53 PM
Al Svanberg Nash- Thanks! Darn, this... 08-02-2016, 09:21 PM
nikolgiorgos Those are "rules" from the... 08-03-2016, 07:53 PM
nash123 Here's something interesting... 08-08-2016, 07:52 AM
Al Svanberg Nash- This is an update by... 08-08-2016, 08:30 AM
nash123 That's right. I just want to... 08-08-2016, 12:02 PM
skrrr Isn't this 4% thing old news?... 08-09-2016, 08:31 AM
nikolgiorgos Yes, that's true (and old). ... 08-09-2016, 08:57 PM
nash123 You know, 128% is 7* player?... 08-11-2016, 07:31 AM
nikolgiorgos of course not haha * only... 08-11-2016, 07:49 PM
Al Svanberg Three questions: (i) I... 08-12-2016, 02:12 PM
nash123 If you want to train SA or... 08-13-2016, 10:14 PM
Al Svanberg Nash- Big thanks! I am... 08-14-2016, 04:29 PM
nash123 What quality are your player?... 08-14-2016, 04:49 PM
Al Svanberg I just missed another game... 08-17-2016, 11:59 AM
nash123 Only if you miss a game. I... 08-24-2016, 03:05 PM
Al Svanberg Yeah exactly. I've started... 08-24-2016, 08:55 PM
Al Svanberg A little update, I tried to... 09-15-2016, 04:57 PM
Al Svanberg Guys, do you know if a "3... 09-05-2016, 06:37 AM
nash123 No, it's the same, no... 09-05-2016, 03:18 PM
nikolgiorgos as I wrote in a "chapter" of... 09-05-2016, 04:43 PM
Nudo74 Niko/Al, I've been looking... 09-17-2016, 03:30 PM
LeManiaque ^^ That's what this thread... 09-17-2016, 04:30 PM
nikolgiorgos more or less it's the resume... 09-17-2016, 04:41 PM
Nudo74 I guess I just don't... 09-17-2016, 07:14 PM
LeManiaque There is basically nothing... 09-17-2016, 08:39 PM
nikolgiorgos power training is what we... 09-17-2016, 09:04 PM
Nudo74 Thanks guys! Sent from... 09-17-2016, 11:35 PM
nikolgiorgos Today I found the first... 09-21-2016, 08:29 PM
Rautz I've ran tests and... 09-21-2016, 10:50 PM
nikolgiorgos Sorry my friend but I didn't... 09-22-2016, 02:43 PM
Rayyaun Amendment: Extra position &... 10-01-2016, 04:43 AM
Al Svanberg Just one thought, I have... 10-01-2016, 06:31 AM
ibangali Hi nikol, I know you are more... 10-06-2016, 06:08 AM
Bunzo I take it you mean FK sa ? ... 10-06-2016, 03:40 PM
ibangali Yes, Bunzo, it was a typo :P... 10-06-2016, 04:08 PM
Rayyaun My training level is max,... 10-01-2016, 04:39 AM
nikolgiorgos you mean with the new... 10-01-2016, 07:08 AM
Al Svanberg Yeah! But I am not at all... 10-01-2016, 09:36 AM
nikolgiorgos in my example, I 'm writing... 10-01-2016, 10:42 AM
Al Svanberg No both actually, likt its... 10-03-2016, 09:21 PM
nikolgiorgos Ok, I 'm going to make a... 10-04-2016, 04:03 PM
Al Svanberg Nik- I am definitely not... 10-04-2016, 05:46 PM
LeManiaque Looks like it was written by... 10-04-2016, 11:01 PM
nikolgiorgos - Agree with the statements... 10-04-2016, 06:50 PM
Al Svanberg Niko- Yeah, I agree for sure... 10-04-2016, 09:19 PM
nikolgiorgos yes, agree so I believe that... 10-05-2016, 06:56 PM
nikolgiorgos maybe can be done. I don't... 10-06-2016, 04:22 PM
madflo19 Yes it's the same,I've... 10-06-2016, 09:05 PM
Al Svanberg Ibangali- Did you play games... 10-06-2016, 06:32 PM
ibangali No, I don't use that FT to... 10-07-2016, 03:26 AM
nikolgiorgos well, this is bad management... 10-07-2016, 06:13 PM
ibangali First correction my last... 10-07-2016, 10:38 PM
Cloverfield Just a comment on the sum-up... 10-07-2016, 07:10 PM
nikolgiorgos the problem is that when we... 10-07-2016, 07:16 PM
Cloverfield Of course there is repeat... 10-07-2016, 07:20 PM
nikolgiorgos no, I mean direct after I... 10-07-2016, 07:43 PM
Cloverfield Oh ok, got it. Although I do... 10-07-2016, 08:01 PM
nikolgiorgos I - N - I - What... 10-23-2016, 08:21 AM
ibangali Indeed, but I didn't say to... 10-25-2016, 03:53 PM
nikolgiorgos ah yes, with that logic I... 10-25-2016, 04:05 PM
ibangali Thats true again but here... 10-26-2016, 01:42 AM
CM-16 Which one's better for... 12-11-2016, 03:33 PM
nikolgiorgos sorry for merging, but it's... 12-11-2016, 05:44 PM
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    no, I mean direct after I finished the training of one player.
    As we can do after training a group.
    What you 're showing is two more clicks
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    Oh ok, got it. Although I do 15 trainings in 3 minutes with no much effort (3 minutes which include replenishing of condition and the 2 more clicks ) so it is fast enough for me.

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    - I have 7 FT 18 yo 3*-4* .
    -Unfortunately I don't have enough green pack in stock to finish all training before new season, so those 7 FT going to lost there star on next season.
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    well, this is bad management
    Maybe those players gaining a lot but you 're gonna need a lot of greens to develop them.
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    I believe its more than enough to train a FT and bring one star up, I can train my 4* to 5* and sell him to gain club finance.
    What is more important is to win titles and secondary the club finances.
    It's a waste to spend greens only for developing and selling players.
    It's much better to use those greens to develop 5* players so to be 6* and at the end of the season (when it's time for Cup and CH.L. semi & finals) to be early 7* so to have a slight advantage vs your strong opponents. That's what I do without spending a fortune.
    A 3-4* player gonna need a lot of greens to be a 6*-7* player.

    Back to the subject, this season I bought a 4* fast trainer (there weren't 5* nordgen in the market ) for one of my teams but this team was staying for 2 seasons in the same level and had some extra greens, also after promoting to the new Super League, gonna stay again in the same level.
    I gave him an extra position and an extra sa using the new (with 3 whistles drills) and the old version.
    In both cases I spent the same amount of greens (about 38).
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
    It's a waste to spend greens only for developing and selling players.
    Indeed, but I didn't say to use greens

    Quote Originally Posted by ibangali
    48 x 28 = 1344 condition we can use in one season, I believe its more than enough to train a FT and bring one star up, I can train my 4* to 5* and sell him to gain club finance.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
    A 3-4* player gonna need a lot of greens to be a 6*-7* player.
    Its true too and unfortunately in my server its hard to see or find 4/5* FT, last season I bought one 18 yo 4* MC, within 4/5 (+/-) weeks I give him 2 np, one sp and add few more skill points without spending any green, now he going to be 5* soon and his value will increase too.

    Pros and cons in power training-trained-mc.jpg

    My point is if a club keep 1 or 2 or 3 roster (3/4*) FT and train them without using green then manager can gain some money for club and at the same time club training lvl goes higher.
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    ah yes, with that logic I agree that 3-4* FA can contribute more to finance of the team, specially in lower levels cause after 16-18 lv, the values of the players are all the about the same.

    * but in that case, you don't need another extra position (this isn't increasing the value), one sa is enough to have some good offers for him
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
    * but in that case, you don't need another extra position (this isn't increasing the value), one sa is enough to have some good offers for him
    Thats true again but here comes my second point of view as :

    Quote Originally Posted by ibangali
    Even if we like to buy recommended scout, those scout cost over 60 T and most of them are 19-21 yo
    We some time spend 79T for a 21 yo recommended scout. If a club train a 18 yo 4* FT 3 seasons (ofc club tanking) then when that player is 21 yo he can be 6* with a sp plus 3 positions (without using any green), like my illustrated MC.

    On the other hand, if the club not tanking, still that 18 yo 4* FT can be train (without using any green) and age of his 21 he will have 3 positions plus a sp with close to 6*

    Well, obviously we don't know at the age 21 how well he can play but we always cross fingers

    [without using any green mean = 48 x 28 x 3 = 4032 condition, equivalent 268 green saving by burning his own fat]

    Pros and cons in power training-trained-mc.jpg

    This illustrated MC with good rating I believe any manager love to train him more and keep him for the club.

    So bottom line, if a manager want s/he can train a 18 FT without spending any green for 3 seasons as a roster or tanking the club, can gain a 21 yo FT 6* (or very close to 6*), downside is player losing first 3 seasons (saving green, gaining age).

    Thanks again
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    Which one's better for Individual Training?

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    sorry for merging, but it's good to keep few threads with the same subject and not spreading with questions.
    Read from the beginning and ask a specific questions
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