ML/MR are supporting roles, you should not expect to get from them the same results as from AML/AMR.

Although I think somewhere along the line the developers have increased the importance of winning the battle in central midfield (for example I only saw one team playing 442 wide diamond in 7 seasons) ML/MR are still somewhat useful. What comes to my mind for example:

- I think 442 classic reduces the chances of troll results against lower quality teams . Also I find 442 classic the best choice against strange asymmetric formations, or the absurd formations used by tankers (442 generally allows you to win with more goals)

- 4411 is a decent counter for 442 classic. Also 4411 is the best choice if in an easy game for some reason (ie top scorer challenge) you want your striker, and not your wingers, to score. Maybe 4411 is the formation giving a single striker the highest chance to score (of course provided your team can win with relative ease) and wifhout pressing high.

-451 flat IMO is better than 4-3-2w-1 as a counter for a stronger 4-5-1 V-style

- In general, formations with 3 players on each side, such as 4-3w-2w-1 work well against 41212 nd. These games tend to end with many goals on each side but the wide playing team typically wins, at least in my my experience.

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