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Our local Polish community is full of tutorials, which explain how to use this trick to improve teams. Most of people was excited and they said that they will use it to enhance quality of players.
In my opinion it's multiaccount and it should not be allowed. Nordeus have to change it, otherwise best players will resign.
Admins have been really strangely absent from this thread. Maybe if we put something right in the Suggestions forum, we'll force someone to notice and address the issue head-on.
what this has to do with the issue ?Quote:
Originally Posted by masterptq
I like playing T11 ,have enough time and I 'm playing with 3 teams (different levels and style).
The problem isn't having more than one team
or playing the game without fb account (many asked for it)
or the loan system (also many asked for it and it's a fun part of associations)
The "flaw" is the healing of loan players.
Also to add, the adms answered to that subject.
They said that they aware of it, they don't approve it and they suggested not to "regenerate" this so to get the attention of more players.
They are working to that, to find a solution without (we) loosing some new features we got or some general "punishment".
What else to say here again :confused:
no, it's the system of the forum (filters), "reading" your posts - one after the other as spams.Quote:
I have written two post here and i can't see any of them. Deleted?
I'm not sure if this strategy was effective.... other players have looked at the standings, seen how the top Associations are winning, and are borrowing their strategies. So now we have lots of loan-hack teams and no observable progress against this trend. I understand their intention, and it's a good idea... but I feel like players are going to figure out these things regardless of if they're discussed on this forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
Today I had a league game with a league leader. Till today I was only 3 points behind him. My team in form, doing really well lately, beating +20% team in +1lvl ChL today.
I hoped for a good game, but just before the game I realised his team greatly powered up. After losing the match I checked his asso, and YES he has +100 loans, and had rocketed his 4 key players up to even 140%.
The league title is over for me as this exploiter is now out of reach for me and for the rest of the teams.
It happened first time for me, I saw such teams in asso before, but didn't face them on league ground.
This ugly method is becoming more and more popular and hence demotivating for fair players.
Why try hard and meticulously built your team if you can get your efforts ruined just in the blink of an eye.
If Nordeus don't do anything with the issue more and more players will get fed up and quit...
The guy went even further today making his players up to 160% and thus escalating his overal team Q from 105% yesterday to 125% today
Lost fun in playing this season for sure...
(I am with him for the second season in a row, if I'm put with him again next season I will take a break).
The solution to the problem was introduced in one of the first posts in this thread (take down or at least cap the ability to heal the loans) and yet nothing is done with this obvious, undeniable manipulation for such a long time..
I'm shocked.
I have this thread bookmarked actually. It's opened in my browser at all times as well as several others.
But as Niko said - There ain't much an Admin can say on the matter. I can't get this fixed my self. Also this whole matter hasn't stopped being a subject of discussion here in the office. Even now I don't really think it's ok for me to come around and just say HI, but I just want to reassure you all, I guess. :/
The feature with the resting of players through the FA is still a good feature when used with good intent. It promotes grouping up and playing with friends. Sadly this is why, as the saying goes, "We can't have nice things" because some people abuse mechanics and systems in games. Either to get an advantage or... even out of spite. But we do like the feature, and we want the players to have nice things. That's why it's taking so long.
The fix is being finalized (Took a good few months but... Hopefully we'll be able to deploy it very, very soon).
That's good to hear. To be honest, I would have been totally fine with the developers saying "we gave you this feature, you abused this feature and ruined it for everyone, so we'll take it away from everyone", at least until a solution is found, but I definitely appreciate the effort to keep it going. I suppose you are more forgiving than I am and less willing to punish everyone for a small population's misdeeds, but that's also probably why I'm not in charge. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeeves
Thank god! I was going to leave. So many abusing this, including the manager dominating my league. I am second and have spent time and money only to be topped in both cup and league by an association loan cheat. I don't actually think it's been worth bulking on, the cheats have prospered for too long. Pull your socks up Nordeus and support the people putting money in your pockets
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Great :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeeves
Well... as player that has played for years in other online games and that personally Ive seen some games (time ago) "destroyed" with bugs by players and trying to use all posible and incredible tricks to take advantadge... such as scripts or extensions to play in automatic mode and so... really... the loans feature, without a limit, is a candy in the tongue for all those who want abuse and "be proud" of the succes they have doing this...
IMO, and now without know exactly how this will be solved-fixed... limit to 6 loans weekly and just 2 boosters max. investment per player obtained via loans... enough... really, Im happy to hear as manager that will be fixed soon. :rolleyes:
Great news!
I wonder if the fix effects the already powered up players or just caps the possibility for further eploitation?
Anyway it's good that something is done in this matter :).
Nothing has been done. And nothing will be. It's been 6 months this matter has been exposed and the solution is sooooo simple to be put in place. If this has not been done, it is because it's not in Nordeus' interest. Just remove the loan option, which is honestly purely cosmetic and pretty much useless.
that would be impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by czero
They had to hire some hundred employs and put them searching all the teams - lol
and then what ? I don't think that the program is able to reduce the q of the players.
Only "punishment" I 've seen is to ban a team (permanently or for a period) or take his sources/stock (which in most of the cases doesn't exist).
But they didn't do anything "illegal".
So we just have to wait few months till those 8*-9*-10* teams get back to normal :p
@gizzmo
maybe but it has fun.Quote:
Just remove the loan option, which is honestly purely cosmetic and pretty much useless.
I like it :)
I assume the "fix" to the exploitation of loans will be in place for next seasons Association games ?
Maybe we will start with some correction and fixes in the new season ? New season no cheaters :D
Im off down the bookie this morning FA Cup games are always worth a punt ..
I do wonder though if they´ll have odds on this exploiting of loans still going on in a months time it really has gone on openly for far too long now.
Anyway not one more penny will Nordeus get from me till this is sorted .
(the bookies can have it ;) )
No news in this matter? :rolleyes: :confused:
I assume the devs are waiting till the begining of a new season to implement the fix, but the filrthy process goes on...
Here's the exploiters' asso: UCL32H# with members having over 1100 loans (my league oppo no #1).
He's building his team for following seasons. Hope I will not meet him in the future.
Maybe Nordeus will put all exploiters in one league to kill themselves off :D
top ranked 12th :)
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Just give me tons of tokens and I will never complain again :)
Serious: is there anywhere to find a log for future updates?
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Originally Posted by Gabez Teh
Check number 57 "Lord of the rings" they´re nearly at 20,000 loans ffs
@Gabez @czero, report those numbers to support in game, they are going to be lost and buried in this forum
This just can't be: imagine how long it took them to manage that stuff ! You train your player to exhaustion then you lean him, you pick him up with the "green supplier", rest him and do the the same process the other way round: that makes one loan. After that, you have to create a fake facebook account, start a new game, join the asso and that makes for 50 greens, so basically 10 loans ! And there we go again! Silly! Do they make money with that on top of tokens ? I hope so, for they sake...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunzo
I've just checked with freshly created Google TE account: 71 greens + 120 tokens = 196 greensQuote:
Originally Posted by gizzmo
Looks like there's been a change in the world top 100?
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I see that Nordeus did nothing on this matter.
The guy is on the loan exploit again.
I was drawn with him in the ChLeague today.
If I meet him in a league I will consider tanking...
Shame on you Nordeus.
The new "From Sale" team aka U Craiova...
Honestly, it's just gross that Nordeus let's this continue, can't stand up for themselves, won't defend the rest of us managers.
I completely believe this team will sell, online, for real money. Maybe not much, but they will get a deal via Facebook. So someone will make real dollars from months of exploiting, someone will inherit an association at rank #1 that not only had nothing to do with, but was built on a legacy of the most insultingly blatant cheating... and an exploiting team will remain at #1 for... longer than is fair.
They are laughing in the face of Nordeus, an absolute insult. They will profit one last time, for hard digital cash, and leave with no regrets.
I think it's terrible Nordeus keeps this trash in plain sight. Scrub all the former exploit associations, add an explicit statement prohibiting sale and transfer or profiting from the game, ban the users, reset the association back to 0. FFS, do something to repair the damage, beyond the compromise of limited loan healing going forward.
U Craiova bribed the ref, broke team Nordeus to pieces, win the match, kept the clean sheet, and they're about get the Wheaties box endorsement too.
They don't seem too happy with the new 5 rest rule.
Ahhhhhhh. Just caught up with other posts in other threads and it appears they have bigger reasons to be unhappy.
More on this in this post:Quote:
Originally Posted by LeManiaque
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...tml#post441948
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Bye bye
On a serious note though, I think that after introducing the global 5 rest packs limit for Association members what Nordeus needs to do is look for the Associations with extremely high loans number and ban them all.
It's pretty simple and it would set the example for anyone even thinking exploiting the game in the future.
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I just love the audacity that people thought their teams were worth money. It's amazing. Justice is sweet.
How did they manage to change their asso's name when they're supposed to be blocked ?
they are not blocked Nordeus should give them ban for 2 month"s or 3
just for the other players can to catch up with them
(but its Nordeus Own fault to make it possible with the loan trick)
That's right. Loads of people have done that. They are banned for intending to sell their assos by the way not for exploit issue and Nordeus only blocked the main accounts that are 9*, they dissolved the assos by kicking other accounts out of the asso.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster Keaton
At least they have done "something" ...
you can be ban for 7 days or permanently , there is no " 2 or 3 months " timelaps of ban !
They managed to change the name of their FA Group because they had several accounts on their FA Group and they were not all banned and they were vice-cap so they could change the name ! It was the big accounts ( 8 and 9 stars average ) which were banned !
The only thing i was surprised is that all the " big " accounts had an illegal formation and it was exactly the same on the two FA group , very stange , i suppose it was a nordeus 's act lol !
But now they have dissapeared forever !
Yes it was lol. I assume these accounts have not been permanently deleted, just have been blocked to login to the system btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaizer Franz
and the winner for fair play is ......
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ROMA, yeaaa
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