Players Condition - NEW

[PricopGeorgeCătălin]

Hey guys as you might know at the moment players are losing more condition if you are using pressing style: whole pitch or marking style: man-at-man and from what I can see a lot of players are unhappy.

Please leave your comments about this issue on this topic only.


Own opinion as a player: I would like this feature but with lower values, at the moment I think players are losing way to much, even 50% at a game. This also increase the injury risk and for somebody who is like me from Romania, we don't have any videos to win boosters so this feature is not helping us to much.


We except your opinions but in a calm way. Please do not swear or insult anyone.

Best regards,
Pricop Catalin

[mmunger]

Why was the old thread deleted? It had more than 160 messages, showing the extent of the discontent.

[PricopGeorgeCătălin]

Why was the old thread deleted? It had more than 160 messages, showing the extent of the discontent.

I already answered here http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...654-hmmmm.html . Sorry again but I can't do anything more at the moment.

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[Michael Chambers]

The pressing statement is rubbish, as its been in the last 8 days or so, that players condition doesnt go back up, and Ive been on same tactics for the last 2 seasons, so dont fob me off with its a tactical thing

[Michael Chambers]

So just to state again, the last post on the thread you deleted was by me and it read the following!

"""Fredi the Admin said, They ( Nordeus ) are trying to make the game more realistic ??"""

If your gonna go down that road and come out with that, then theirs more than a few changes that need making to make the game more realistic, for starters, If a player in real life gets injured, do you see a manager use treatments to heal it just like that? and as for the bidding of players, token after token and to no avail, very realistic - i didnt know that when Chelsea had bids turned down for Stones that it actually cost them something -

Fact is, its all about money and trying to get us to purchase more of this that and everything

[Harold Terah]

So just to state again, the last post on the thread you deleted was by me and it read the following!

"""Fredi the Admin said, They ( Nordeus ) are trying to make the game more realistic ??"""

If your gonna go down that road and come out with that, then theirs more than a few changes that need making to make the game more realistic, for starters, If a player in real life gets injured, do you see a manager use treatments to heal it just like that? and as for the bidding of players, token after token and to no avail, very realistic - i didnt know that when Chelsea had bids turned down for Stones that it actually cost them something -

Fact is, its all about money and trying to get us to purchase more of this that and everything

On point, that is true especially the tokens issue, I can't stop laughing... I think it's about getting us to buy this and that; the condition issue is frustrating since the new version, players are getting tired in a very strange way, i have been using the same tactics but i have never seen my players get tired like lately.

[khris]

Ok, lets try to leave all the future discussions about the "players condition change" here, we can continue with the discussion and share viewpoints here in the place of, open loads of threads about these changes.

[PricopGeorgeCătălin]

Fredi

Hi Managers,

Until Thursday, whole pitch pressing and man-to-man marking were using as much condition as own half pressing and zonal marking respectively. In our opinion, and we believe you would all agree with this, it was not logical. Thus, we decided to fix this and, from now on, whole pitch pressing and man-to-man marking use more of your players' condition.

This change makes the game more realistic but obliges you to take more decisions before and during the game, the latter especially giving a match-watching Manager an advantage over an absent one. For instance, if your team leads 3-0 at the 60th minute, which means the victory is almost secured, you should consider switching to own half pressing and/or zonal marking (of course, if these tactics were not used already) in order to rest your players and start preparing for the next game. Also, if your next opponent's team is weaker than yours, you could start the match with less tiring tactics and see how it goes before you decide to use more condition-burning ones.

All things considered, we're convinced this modification was needed and that it improves the game experience. Our intention was to bring more realism to Top Eleven and by no means to make you use more Rests!...

Be cautious when choosing your tactics!

Fredi

[Gert Funck]

Fredi

Hi Managers,

Until Thursday, whole pitch pressing and man-to-man marking were using as much condition as own half pressing and zonal marking respectively. In our opinion, and we believe you would all agree with this, it was not logical. Thus, we decided to fix this and, from now on, whole pitch pressing and man-to-man marking use more of your players' condition.

This change makes the game more realistic but obliges you to take more decisions before and during the game, the latter especially giving a match-watching Manager an advantage over an absent one. For instance, if your team leads 3-0 at the 60th minute, which means the victory is almost secured, you should consider switching to own half pressing and/or zonal marking (of course, if these tactics were not used already) in order to rest your players and start preparing for the next game. Also, if your next opponent's team is weaker than yours, you could start the match with less tiring tactics and see how it goes before you decide to use more condition-burning ones.

All things considered, we're convinced this modification was needed and that it improves the game experience. Our intention was to bring more realism to Top Eleven and by no means to make you use more Rests!...

Be cautious when choosing your tactics!

Fredi

Why should Zonal defense be less condition consuming, than Man to man marking and vice versa , that makes no sense to me?

Either way all formations and orders seems more condition consuming too me now.

And worst is the extreme condition drop during game, where a 95-100% fit player now goes into red during second half. This IMHO is a grave setback and is not the faintest more realistic. (and the in game drop is on all player, no matter arrow)

Conclusion is:

1. more in game injuries (red condition)
2. more green pack use to try keeping condition to an acceptable level.
3. Even more excessive use of red packs to keep a competitive squad

I am not impressed and talking about injuries, the risk/level before this change was unrealistic high, Now I predict it will just be unbearable

And why do we carry on injuries from last season when there realistic would be a 24 weeks season break?

(still my opinion)

[Top11 Manager]

Why should Zonal defense be less condition consuming, than Man to man marking and vice versa , that makes no sense to me?

you ever played football yourself? try man to man marking running with the opponent`s player all game long and tell me if that was less condition consuming than just waiting for him in your zone...