Just an observation here, but when you get on and say that a certain formation that you used beat a 4-4-2, it means nothing if you do not post the strength of both teams involved in the match. It does not matter a bit which formation you use. If you are much stronger than the other team, you will win regardless of formation. I played a 4-4-2 early this season using 3w-1-3w-1-2 and drew 1-1. He was a (31) level 4 and I was a (24) Level 3. I have since tightened the gap between the quality of our teams. He is (33) and I am (29). Tomorrow is the rematch at my home and I will be going with 4-1-3N-1-1. One thing I have seen with his team is that any poor result, draw or loss, that he had, he faced a team that was setup to play through the middle.