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your DMC might become useful in that case,he's right in between of the lines.Anyway,there's nothing sure when it's about Top Eleven,there are too many factors influencing the events.Just try tactics and orders like i do...then everyone will find their own best ones for their team.Quote:
Originally Posted by kebess
What should the tactics be with a 4-1-4-1 against a 4-3w-1-2?
well just want to confirm, against a 3-4-1-2, the 4-1-2-1-2 works excelllent (^-^) today I had a champions league match.. was a 50-50... but I won 1-3...
orders?
well the 3 ST arrows in red (well 2 ST and 1 ... AMC?? ..false ST xD), the rest, all in blue, except DL DR without arrow.
attacking mentality,
mixt,
in all the field,
normal,
long pases,
zone, and counter and off*** yeah.
veryyy gud guide^^
Hi July,
I have looked through more than 40 pages of this thread but found no counter against the formation below.
It does seem unbeatable. Would appreciate if anyone has come across this and let me know if it can be beaten
DC-DC-DC
DMR-DMC-DML
MC-MC
ST-ST
Have you consider listing this in the first page guide as there were a few queries (after going through all 97 pages) but no one seemed to have an answer or reply
Did anyone ever reply this? Because I cant seem to find the solution for this. How did your result turn out and what formation did you use?Quote:
Originally Posted by skandal
Hello ... Im new player.
My opponent use 3w-3mc-2aml/amr-2st. He play in home
How to counter... ?
I can not use butterfly because i dont have dml/dmr
My better players are mc, amr/aml, st
If someone can help me , please
hi i'm new to the forum so 1st of hello everyone : ) i'm up against a strange formation tomorrow can somebody give me a clue on what formation I should play against this
gk
.......DC..........DC.........
DMR.......................................DML
.........MC.............MC..............
AMR.........................................AML
........ST..............ST............
although I have noticed he is playing a few players out of position but still would like to hear your thoughts thanks
Hi, have very important champions league match. Have better team, but lost first match at home(3:2). He has weird formation, how to play against that. Thanky you.
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You can try a 4-1-2-1-2 narrow diamond, short passing trough the middle.
That is an illegal formation since he plays with less than 3 defenders. I would play against this with 4-3W-1-2 and attack him through the center.Quote:
Originally Posted by anfield hero's
Thank you, will try. Any special arrows on players, marking style?Quote:
You can try a 4-1-2-1-2 narrow diamond, short passing trough the middle.
i beat this formation with 3N-4-1-2
Lost 2:1 with 4-1-2-1-2, but ok.
Have league game away, he has better quality(2points). I need to win to pass him on the leaderboard. He plays very attacking strategy.
Any suggestion how to beat him?
His formation:
Attachment 12266
thanks for the info much appreciatedQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris Rath
i am facing a 4-1-2-1-2 team WIDE MIDFIELDER ( i am slightly better in quality ), the table says 3-5-2 flat.. does it mean 3 dc, ml, mr, 3mc and 2 striker? what team order should i use? it seems that he used counter attack in all his matches even against much weaker opponents. he won his last 16 league games in a row even though in almost all of his games, opponents had some number of shots on goal :rolleyes: ( his striker is very efficient in converting their chances ).. any suggestion?
Hi
This is my first season so I'm starting to understand the whole formation thing in this game but I have troubles.
Today I've played with worse team than mine.
He played:
- - ST - -
LW - - -RW
- CM CM CM -
LB CB CB RB
Because I don't have MR in my team and the AMC is poor I decided that because I'm better than oponent I should win either way so i decided to put my best players in using suitable formation for them. I decided to play 4-5-1 v style.
After the first half I was loosing 1-0.
I decided to switch to something which I thought (after reading guides of zonal marking etc.) might work:
- - ST - -
- - AMC - -
- CM CM CM -
DML - - - DMR
LB - CB - RB
Making tham play offensive and very offensive in the last quarter of a game. But nothing changed.
I lost the game 1-0.
Tomorrow I have a match with a team with similar formation. I really want to win this one to stay in a fight for a 2 spot.
I won't buy the mr (problem with tokens). This time I have a match on my field.
What should I do??
For now I want to play this formation:
- - ST - -
- - AMC - -
ML CM CM -
- - - - DMR
LB CB CB RB
Although my AM is not impressive player.
I would be thankful for any piece of advise.
Greetings from Poland
Adam
Additional question. Please confirm or correct.
If I have better players than oponent I'm watching the game and playing at home what if I always play the same position as oponent?
In theory that's not the best formation but still having better player I just should be better?
Hi, I read a lot your tips and find them really usefull but it's first time a post.
Tonight I have game 2 in Semi Final Champions against a guy just a bit stronger but not that much 47,7 vs 46,8.
He's got a weird formation in a
GK
RD CD CD LD
CM LM
AMC
ST ST ST
(In midfield, he's got a left wing and one center midfielder he puts not in the center but just a little on the right)
I started game 1 with a
3-1-2 (MC)-3(AML-AMC-AMR)-1
but took 2 goals in the first minute so I changed to a
4-5-1 (V Style) by taking out my AMC and putting a DR.
thought that was the answer cause quickly took possession and scored. But he finished by putting a last goal and we ended on a 3-1.
What formation would u use to counter him and give me chance to come back ?
Thanks for ur help
I'm facing an oponnent with a formation not mentioned in the table at the first page. He's is playing similar formtion as Sajadi wrote few pages ago.
I need to win it cause it's a fight for a second place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vahid Sajadi
Unfortunatelly my main striker is seriously injured (and I have 11 medical treatment so I cannot fixed him) and the only AMC is injured as well (but he is a crappy player so it doesn't really matter imho).
Could you suggest any formation to match this guy? Imho I still have better players and the match is at my stadium (but it's very likely that I won't be online).
If it's possible please suggest also formations settings (arrows and others).
Thanks for every help!
w tym momencie 3. Galatasaray jest w ustawieniu 3N-2W(DML/DMR)-3N-2, a 4. Espartinas 4-3N-2W(AML/AMR)-1Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Marszał
kiedyś przeciwników grających 3N-2W(DML/DMR)-3N-2 pokonywałem właśnie grając 4-3N-2W(AML/AMR)-1, ale wtedy nie zmieniałem tak 'często' formacji jak teraz, odkąd pamiętam lepiej mój zespół grał grając skrzydłami, ale wynik zależy od sprawy losowej, nie zawsze lepszy zespół na papierze wygrywa mecz
CL revanche vs 4-4-2 (Lose away 0:2), how to play vs unbeatable 4-4-2?
Dzięki za odpowiedz!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chester FC
Rozumiem, że grając tak dokładnie odpowiadam na to co on ustawia w obronie i po prostu liczę, że się przez niego przebije, tak?
Udało mi się jednak wyleczyć napastnika i może po prostu zagram 4 3N 2W 1 jak dzisiaj z krótkimi podaniami, a resztą na normal, aczkolwiek myślałem jeszcze o wariancie 3N 3N 2W i albo 2 napastnikach albo dm i st.
Jeszcze raz dzięki
3W-2DMC-1MC-3W-1
DR--DC--DL
-DMC-DMC-
----MC----
AMR-AMC-AML
----ST----
what to use?
"Rozumiem, że grając tak dokładnie odpowiadam na to co on ustawia w obronie i po prostu liczę, że się przez niego przebije, tak?" - tak, wydaje mi się, że to działa na zasadzie że walka jest w jego strefie obronnej, jeśli on wygra 'walkę' o piłkę to ma do przejścia całe boisko, jeśli ty wygrasz to jesteś już blisko jego bramki, ale nie wiadomo na jakiej zasadzie działa dokładnie silnik gry, ale wiadomo że na losowości, i można się spodziewać wszystkiego, ja w tym sezonie przegrałem 2 mecze z przeciwnikami którzy są ode mnie o 10 punktów jakości słabsi, (patrząc tu na forum jakie niekiedy się wyniki zdarzają to wydają się one niemożliwe)Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Marszał
kilka moich spostrzeżeń w grze(nie muszą być prawidłowe):
atak środkiem ma przewagę nad atakiem bokami, ale to zależy jakich ma się zawodników, np moi lepiej grają bokami, chodzi mi o to że 4-3N-3 jest lepsze od 4-5-1 V-Style, ale możliwe że 4-1-4-1 (grając bokami) jest już lepsze od 4-3N-3, cofnięcie AML na ML i AMR na MR robi przewage wychodzi na to
obrońców musi być minimum +1 niż napastników przeciwnika, dla 3 napastników przeciwnika stosuję właśnie 4 obrońców + DMC
najważniejsze pole gry to cały ten żółty prostokąt pomocników, od AML do DMR, tak myślę właśnie po niektórych wynikach
jeśli przeciwnik stosuje nielegalną formacje to powinieneś mieć przewagę (więcej akcji, więcej strzałów) ale to nie daje pewności że wygrasz mecz
jeśli ustawiasz premie za zwycięstwo szanse na wygraną się zwiększają, ale przeciwnik również może ustawić premie
co do szczególnych umiejętności to niekiedy pomagają a niekiedy nie, chociaż tu na forum ci którzy kupują tokeny to mają zawodników ze szczególnymi umiejętnościami, ale np bramkarz z obroną sam-na-sam to mu to nic nie daje przy strzale z dystansu, tak samo jeśli ma się zawodnika z rzutami rożnymi a nie ma się żadnego rzutu rożnego
niedawno grałem z typkiem słabszym ode mnie ale 2 jego obrońcy mieli obronę w powietrzu, ale to się kończyło tak: mam rzut rożny, mój zawodnik bez SA dośrodkowuje, obrońcy z SA obrona w powietrzu wybijają na rzut rożny, a jakieś 70-80% takich sytuacji się kończy golem (rzut rożny -> obrońcy wybijają na rzut rożny -> rzut rożny -> gol), szczególne umiejętności zwiększają szansę na coś ale to nadal losowość
dobrze też jest potestować jak zawodnicy grają w różnych formacjach i poleceniach, które ustawienie sprzyja dla twojego zespołu a które nie
powodzenia w grze! ciśnij leszczy w grze i pamiętaj Polska górą!
QuoteOriginally Posted by Adam Marshal View Post
Thanks for the reply!
understand that playing as accurately answer for what he sets in defense and just hope that he beats up, right?
but I was able to heal striker and maybe just'll play four 3N 2W 1 as it is today with short ball towards, and the rest of the normal, but I was thinking more about the option of 3N 3N 2W and either two attackers or dm and senior Thanks again
"I understand that playing as accurately answer for what he sets in defense and just hope that he beats up, right?" - Yes, it seems to me that it works on the principle that the fight is in the area of defense, if he wins the 'fight' for the ball it takes to go the whole field, if you win you're already close to his goal, but it is not known on what basically works exactly the game engine, but it is known that the randomness, and you can expect all this season I lost two matches against opponents who are away from me by 10 points weaker quality, (seen here on the forum that sometimes the results seem to occur They can not) some of my observations in the game (not necessarily correct) attack in the middle attack has the advantage over the sides, but it depends on what is to be competitors, such as the sides of my better play, I mean that 4-3N-3 is better than 4-5-1 V-Style, but it is possible that the 4-1-4-1 (playing sides) is better than the 4-3N-3, revocation AML to ML and MR AMR to make advantage goes to the defense must be a minimum than one enemy attackers for three enemy attackers I use just four defenders + DMC major field of play is all this yellow rectangle helpers from AML to DMR, so I was after some of the results if the opponent uses an illegal formations you should have an advantage (more shares More shots) but it does not guarantee that you will win the match if you set bonuses for winning chances of winning on the increase, but also the opponent can set bonuses for special skills to help sometimes and sometimes not, but here on the forum you who buy tokens that are competitors with special skills, but such but to the defense of one-on-itself is that it does not help when shooting from a distance, as if a player throws a different and there is no corner kick recently played with local hooligans weaker than me but two his defense counsel were in the air, but it ended like this: I have a corner, my player without SA corner, the defenders of SA in the air defense stand out for a corner, and some 70-80% of such a situation to an end goal (a corner -> knock defenders on a corner -> corner -> goal), the specific skill increases the chance for something but it's still randomness well as it is testing the players play in different formations and commands that setting conducive to your team and that is not good luck in the game!
for everyone's benefit, thanks google.
I played vs this formation twice. First match I played at home in 3n-2w-3n-1amc-1st and drew 1-1 with 51-49 poss. Second match away I used 3n-4-1amc-2st and won 0-2 with 53% poss. Teams were close in strength, theirs was slightly better. hope this helps.
Forgot to quote why I was replying.Quote:
Originally Posted by uiman
google not perfect translate, but peoples should have guessed what wroteQuote:
Originally Posted by Cat Harrison
can you help me maybe with the formation i posted few posts above this one.. cheers
Dzięki wielkie za wszystkie wskazówki! Ostatecznie mecz zremisowałem (co w sumie nie jest złe) aczkolwiek sam nie wiem czy to idealny wynik jak na ten mecz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chester FC
Tak czy siak wskazówki super i będę się ich trzymał.
Na razie trzeba nie zgubić punktów w dwóch meczach i utrzymać 2 miejsce, a potem to jakoś będzie:)
Dzięki
UCL final against : 5 - 1 DMC - 2MC - 2ST
what formation to use ?
So I'm playing today versus 4-3N-1-2 (with 2 oponents). I'm looking for a counter formation and on the table there is info that it can be countered with 4-3N-2(AML/AMR)-1, 4-5-1 V-Style, 3N-5-2 flat.Quote:
Originally Posted by sdw
You've wrote that 4-5-1 V style is very easy to counter with 4-3N-1-2. So what the heck is really with this tactic?
I would be thankful for any advice how to be oponent with 4-3N-1-2 formation with equal or slightly worse team.
I am playing against a 3w(dr-dc-dl) -1dmc-2n(mc, mc)-3w(amr-amc-aml)-1 ( st)
--DR----DC----DL
-------DMC------
-----MC---MC---
-AMR--AMC---AML
--------ST-------
We are playing for cup and our teams are at the same level (25.4 me and he is 25.6)
Any idea about it?
Thanks in advance
I'm playing cup today vs
------ST-----
AML-AMC-AMR
---MC--MC---
DR-DC-DC-DL
any suggestinos?
Well, what formation would be good against this one? I would love to get as many goals as possible. I was thinking avout 3-5-2, but I'm not that sure. Any suggestions? :P
Attachment 12924
I play against this formation anybody got any suggestions pls....................
GK
DC DC
DML DMC DMR
MC MC MC
ST ST
3W-2DMC-2MC-3ST .. weird team formation that I have to play in 30 mins :D
So I lost the first game against this guy 3 : 0 at home, I figured it was over and I went for an all out attack for the next away game against him. Note that our teams' quality is almost exactly the same (both lvl 28, both around 155 average quality). I won..wait for it..7:0!! He had absolutely no chance, maybe one good opportunity and didn't otherwise pass the center of the field. Again, we have the exact same player quality and the exact same players and formation (I changed my formation, obviously) was used in both games. So, the first game I started with Narrow Diamong, he scored a goal, I went for 4-5V-1, he scored 2 more goals. The key isn't in the formation, tho.. The key is in the tactics..
For the second game I used 4-5V-1, but with these tactics: (I figured I have nothing to lose so I went all out attack)
Hard Attacking (yes, HARD ATTACKING biatch :D)
Whole Pitch Pressing
Down Both Flanks
HARD Tacking
Offside Trap (I have good defenders, about the same quality as his attackers except for his one AMC who is overpowered)
RED ARROWS on: DL, DR, AML, AMC
It WILL work for you in 99% cases, because he only had like one chance, and that 1% chance of you losing with these tactics are because you might miss all of your chances, and he might score from one attack in the entire game. Rare, but happens.
I hope I helped!
TL;DR; COUNTER FORMATION FOR 4-2(MC)-3W(AM)-1 is 4-5V-1 with hard attack, both flanks, whole pitch pressing, offside trap and (optional) hard tackling - I used hard tackling since it was a home game.
The counter for everything is 4-1-3N-2 with defensive mentality with counter attack and long balls passing through the middle. That's according to 'TSSO' Tim Young who believes he is better than anyone at this game. For that then this topic is entirely useless.
Neah, that is not true. Dont put words in my mouth.
Read the links in my sig for counter. :)
TSSO
