Table of Counter Formations - What to use?

[lulute]

hello, what do you think of this strat? DL DC DR / MDC MDC / MC MC / AML AMR / ST

A French friend

Thank you for your answers.

[magnum 13]

LOL :P
thanks man

[schaumir]

Help me : against 3N-1-2N-3W-1, quick . Tnk all

I would use 4-5-1 V style? OK??????????

[fadhul17]

Help me : against 3N-1-2N-3W-1, quick . Tnk all

I would use 4-5-1 V style? OK??????????

I'm not sure 4-5-1 v work well, i suggest you butterfly.

[ppturano]

My 352 V Style may well be good to counter a 442 classic?

My opponent is slightly stronger than me

Alternatively, it is better to use the narrow diamond or the 3412?

this in my team : http://forum.topeleven.com/team-show...lian-team.html

Thank's

[Appel]

Nice, would be nice to have a sub-forum or something with all the common tactics and a 'discussion' to keep a clear overview. Ofcourse this topic should be the sticky post with a quick counter overview or something.

I will try a few to see if it works

EDIT: It would be nice to know which tactics definitely doesnt work as well.

[albator]

What to use agains 4-1-3-1-1 formation (dr-dc-dc-dl--dmc--mc-mc-mc--amc--st)? does anyone plays 4-6-0 formation (dr-dc-dc-dl--dmc--mc-mc-mc--aml-amr)?

[Appel]

What to use agains 4-1-3-1-1 formation (dr-dc-dc-dl--dmc--mc-mc-mc--amc--st)? does anyone plays 4-6-0 formation (dr-dc-dc-dl--dmc--mc-mc-mc--aml-amr)?

First of all, I am a rookie.

But it is clear that your opponent is going to try to dominate the midfield. You have 2 options, in my opinion. If your players have more quality use the same tactic. And play through the middle. The other option is to go around him, although this might not be to easy.

Since a DL-DC-DR tactic might, since he has a AMC, fail. You could try a: DL-DC-DR-DM-ML-MC-MR-(MC or ST)-ST-ST and go around him. And a blue arrow on MC, as he probably uses counter with red arrows on 2 MC

I think a 4-6-0 is illegal, so You might want to use one midfielder as a ST, and put blue arrows on the MC, since he, most likely, is using counter. Ofcourse you have to use both flanks. Another good option is to use either AML or AMR and one ST, since you will use 1 flank to attack him on. Try to have a header in front of the goal.

So to cut things short, try to use:
1. DL-DC-DR-DM-ML-MC-MR-(MC or ST)-ST-ST (dominate both flanks, zonal, and counter his attack)
2. dr-dc-dc-dl--dmc--mc-mc-mc--amc--st (you counter all his position, manmark, if you are stronger you win)
3. dr-dc-dc-dl--dmc--mc-mc-mc--(aml or amr)--ST (use one flank attack, manmark)

If you are equal in strenght you can use all tactics. If he is stronger, you might want to use 1, and hope for the best. If he/ his players are slightly stronger 3 might be an option.

Good luck,

And let me know what the results are.

[Appel]

Hi I am a rookie (2) 16.7 average quality and just played an away game vs apprentice (3) 18.6 who yielded the 4-5-1 V.

I received a +4 Bonus and therefore managed to have a 53 overall possesion.
Game stats:

So how did I manage? I think a part of it is because of my fast DMR and DML, they were fast enough to counter his AMR and AML, thats why I decided to use man-mark. I used a long passing tactic and focus on center and red arrows on my DMR, DML, MC,MC and one MC blue arrow. Pressing only own half and normal tackling. Ofcourse I used counter attack.

If you have some feedback I would love to hear it. PM would probably be the most appropriate way.

[asuPOLITEHNICA]

i lose the match 3-5-2 flat vs 4-5-1 flat,and he have much weaker team...so you should delete if from above...