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    4-1-4-1 countered with 3(N)-3(W)-2(N)-1-1

    Here's what I've just done against a Level 12 team, I'm Level 8, and I won 1-0 at home.
    I think it's safe to say that a lot of it is down to what level your players are at, skill-wise, tactics etc. and also what bonuses you have available to use.

    This was from my Semi-final 1st leg Cup match, which I played at home, today, against a Level 12 team that saw me win "comfortably(?)" with a 1-0 win.

    I started out this game with a 3(N)-3(W)-2(N)-1-1 formation and switched to a 4-4-2 formation with 20 minutes to go, after making a "tactical switch" by taking my MC/AMC player (Espincho) off and replacing him with a striker (Case) and dropping Grant back as my AMC. I did that so it wouldn't upset the defensive settings and also allowed me to add another striker, by taking off Espincho (MC/AMC) , I then dropped Grant back into the AMC role behind the striker (as a deep lying attacker/secondary striker if you like)

    I used this starting formation as this has worked for me before playing against this formation (4-1-4-1) as well as playing against a 4-4-2 formation, in the both matches of the 1/4 Finals of the Cup, prior to this game, so all I can say is that it worked for me against these two teams in these recent Cup matches played over the past week.

    In this game, Dreamteam FC played a 4-1-4-1 formation but I've no idea what his tactics were, but from watching the game it must have been mixed as he played a variety of passes and also his players went wide and through the middle. Normal tackling(?) as he didn't commit too many fouls.

    He didn't log on to watch the match so I've no idea even if he's still playing as his team is near the bottom of his league. I've also noticed that teams at or near the bottom of a league tend to be "unmanaged" so sometimes scores in matches can give you a false result, because teams of this nature can also win, and win big if managed correctly.

    Unfortunately I picked up a yellow card after the substitution (he, and a few others have a higher than normal agression, that needs to be curbed!) As you can see by the cards "collected" in games by my team.

    I'll post the details from the second leg asap.



    4-1-4-1 countered with 3(N)-3(W)-2(N)-1-1-1-0-win-home-win-1st-leg-sf-cup-1.jpg

    Starting formation 3-3-2-1-1 and Tactics used.
    Bonuses used in game were Condition and Possession


    4-1-4-1 countered with 3(N)-3(W)-2(N)-1-1-starting-formation-tactics.jpg

    Starting formation 3-3-2-1-1 and switched to 4-4-2 after sub made at 70 mins, I also switched Focus Passing to mixed and put set arrows to UP on my wide midfield players and set arrows DOWN on my defenders.


    4-1-4-1 countered with 3(N)-3(W)-2(N)-1-1-formations-used.jpg

    Punchee FC

    4-1-4-1 countered with 3(N)-3(W)-2(N)-1-1-punchee-formation.jpg

    DreamTeam FC

    4-1-4-1 countered with 3(N)-3(W)-2(N)-1-1-dreamteam-formation.jpg

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    The opponent might have used very wrong orders. It might also be one of those rare, occasional wins. You might lose in the second leg using the same tactics.

    I had a quick look at the possible effectiveness of this set of tactics against 4-1-4-1. Some required elements are there, but it looks more like 50-50 (or even less to your side) rather than a proper counter.

    Report back after the second match has been played.
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    Match stats for my Cup game (earlier post)

    I forgot to add the game stats, so here they are, and they're in my favour, I do believe (for this game anyway)
    Too many fouls, but that's because of the order for tackles being set to Hard.

    4-1-4-1 countered with 3(N)-3(W)-2(N)-1-1-cup-game-stats-1.jpg 4-1-4-1 countered with 3(N)-3(W)-2(N)-1-1-cup-game-stats-2.jpg 4-1-4-1 countered with 3(N)-3(W)-2(N)-1-1-cup-game-stats-3.jpg


    So. Do you think I've got a chance in the second leg or what? Assuming we're both logged on and at the game that is. lol

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    The match statistics are in your favor, and thus, yes, this formation and set of orders seem to be good based on those statistics.
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    I didnt attend the match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoofDaddy View Post
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    What is that? For playing against a 4-1-4-1?
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    No, its a tree of goals
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    I just checked it. It looks good for use against 4-1-4-1. This might work against 3N-1-4-2 and 3W-1-4-2 in some cases too.
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    No, it would do terribly against 3n142.Rough game with lots of fouls/injuries
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoofDaddy View Post
    No, it would do terribly against 3n142.Rough game with lots of fouls/injuries
    Haha, but you like playing physical games.
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