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    Quote Originally Posted by mcdoomer View Post
    Well, for an economist like myself this seems like a pretty simple solution, which kind of makes me wonder why the heck Nordeus didn't do this from the start.

    Instead of using Team Strength at End of Season, the game just needs to use Average Team Strength on Previous Season to avoid most of the exploiter tactics. I tried this myself (manipulating seedings) a few seasons ago, and its just too simple and too powerful. I won all games, treble, suffered 3 goals in 50 matches, scored almost 200. No fun at all, to me and to all the fair players you ended up having to play with my exploited team. Just bought a ton of crappy players in the last day of the season and sold half my starting 11. Tanked from 119% to 52% in a day...

    If Average Team Strength on Previous Season had been used, my efforts would be pointless, as I would had been seeded as a 115% team and would be my ass the one destroyed. A lot more fair, since I would had been the jerk that decided to sell my best players. As things are, is total upside logic and I think it gets super annoying for older players, unless you have low self-esteem and really need a lot of TE silverware to make you happy.

    My 2 cents about this one.
    What nordeus should do is close TM for selling of player 4 or 5 days before new season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HairDryer View Post
    What nordeus should do is close TM for selling of player 4 or 5 days before new season.

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    I would be very much against any limitations to the TM. The TM is not broken (or not as broken as the seedings are). That would only hurt fair players just to hurt the seeding exploiters too.

    Statistically speaking, my suggestion solves the root of the problem. Why is not like that from the start, beats me. I guess Nordeus didnt imagine their seeding system would be so easily exploited. Why is not fixed in so many years can probably be explained by one of 2 reasons:

    #1- Technical: the coding required to fix it would demand a lot of changes. (I dont believe this would be the case, unless the game is very poorly coded, but cmon... its just another spreadsheet game like CM, FM... cant be that hard!)

    #2- Economical: the 1 or 2 jerks that playxploit on every division generate more revenue than the rest of the players together. If this is the case, Nordeus would never reveal it, but would also never fix it and we can go all suck a lemon if we dont like it.

    If its not one these 2, I really have no idea. Maybe too busy doing Mourinho video pranks? :P
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    I think it's number 2. Money, money, money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altiplano View Post
    I think it's number 2. Money, money, money.
    Might as well be, but its also a deterrent for other people to invest more into the game. It requires a lot more investment to keep a nice team, with basically the same players for long seasons, compared to just keep a bunch of 1 stars and renew half the starting eleven each season. When I tried the "dark side", my team value in total was lower than the timing that finished last in that division. Still i didnt lost a single game, had 1 goal against to 172 goals scored. How ridiculous is that? I know some people get all touchy with the word "cheat", but, at the very least, this is cheating the system by exploiting a known vulnerability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcdoomer View Post
    Might as well be, but its also a deterrent for other people to invest more into the game. It requires a lot more investment to keep a nice team, with basically the same players for long seasons, compared to just keep a bunch of 1 stars and renew half the starting eleven each season. When I tried the "dark side", my team value in total was lower than the timing that finished last in that division. Still i didnt lost a single game, had 1 goal against to 172 goals scored. How ridiculous is that? I know some people get all touchy with the word "cheat", but, at the very least, this is cheating the system by exploiting a known vulnerability.
    I'm interested to see what happens this season. This is my 3rd season of manipulating the draw and the same 4 or 5 friends have come up against me in the league. I actually feel sorry for them, they are long time in game friends, perhaps 20 seasons or more.
    If they quit because of my manipulation how does that benefit anyone? Nordeus will lose clients and I'll lose active opposition.
    So they can, what? Tank to avoid me next season? Learn to manipulate the draw? Quit? Or spend?
    My guess is that they'll quite soon leave the game. And that's good for no one.
    Although I'll use the "cheats/exploits" whatever anyone want to call them, I'd rather Nordeus finds a way to put an end to them.
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