Easy fix for manipulating division and cup seedings

[PricopGeorgeCătălin]

mcdoomer, your suggestion is something that clearly make sense and probably all together will create a more fairly system, if we speak of manipulations. Yet! Would still be possible but clearly will ask lots of more resources and time from those who are doing it.

... yet, on another side there would be like lots of side effects, for example I can give you my case, I always change my team at the end of the season so this season I can play with avg. of 7 stars and next season with 5, in this case I will end up in a big disadvantage.

Honestly I would prefer that competitions would be with random opponents as it used to be. Having a random mix of qualities is clearly the best and by far the most fairly one.

Anyway, once again thanks for opening the thread, you clearly made people talking about this subject and that's great!

khris, is actually not that hard to improve the CUP system and I am pretty sure there can be solutions even if you manipulate the quality.
One of the solutions would be to simple follow real life CUP competitions.

Let's take a look at Copa del Rey cause you are from Spain and is a great example as well. If I am not wrong in Copa Del Rey you have teams from 1st to 4th divisions and this is pretty much the same in all big leagues. This can go very well in Top Eleven and for example would be like:

Season 1 - Level 1 vs Level 1

Season 2 - Level 2 vs Level 2;3;4;5
Season 3 - Level 3 vs Level 2;3;4;5
Season 4 - Level 4 vs Level 2;3;4;5
Season 5 - Level 5 vs Level 2;3;4;5

Season 6 - Level 6 vs Level 6,7,8,9
Season 7 - Level 7 vs Level 6,7,8,9
Season 8 - Level 8 vs Level 6,7,8,9
Season 9 - Level 9 vs Level 6,7,8,9

.... and so on. This is probably the closest you can get to real life Cups, as I believe in Cup is normal to have different levels like in real life we have different leagues joining the CUP.

• Advantage for Nordeus as people will invest more to increase their chances once they get closer to the highest level in their CUP level .
• Advantage for Underdog teams once they get to the highest level in their CUP level.
• Advantage for those who are using money as their investment will finally make sense and separate them from the rest of managers as would be fairly if you invested more then the others.
• Increasing Cup dynamic, realism, difficulty and trophy value.
• Increasing Treble value by a lot as it would be much harder by following this pattern.
• Decreasing the effectiveness of manipulation by a lot in CUP and as side effect in other competitions as well.

Would clearly not erase the manipulations but would clearly decrease it...

[mcdoomer]

... yet, on another side there would be like lots of side effects, for example I can give you my case, I always change my team at the end of the season so this season I can play with avg. of 7 stars and next season with 5, in this case I will end up in a big disadvantage.

Hi mate. Can you elaborate so I can crunch some numbers for you? In my scenarios if you do this every season (oscilate between 140 and 100 in your best eleven), the only result would be you constantly be placed with 6 star average teams League, so at worst you would be 20% under, at best 20% over. If you mean something else, then I didnt understand you I'm afraid

Loved your suggestion for Cup, but I think it would end up causing a lot of frustration on players on levels 2, 3, 6, 7, 10, 11, etc. Better to just randomly select Quality pots. So lets say, your Potencial Best Eleven AvgQ is 110%. So cup would be seeded with 33% 100-120%, 33% 80-100%, 33% under 80%, but all from the same level, or adjacent levels in case the seedings couldnt be filled. Same on CL, with perhaps more quality degrees, so you only have lets say 4 potential underdogs in the final 32. Just spit balling here

Thanks for appreciating bringing this forward. Ironically I'm having the most nail bitting League season I can remember this year. I just wish every season on every League could be like that for everyone of you!