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    Quote Originally Posted by shwanko07 View Post
    if nordues can't fix that in a days , then they shouldn't be in software programming business
    if it took a year, am sure bcz they want it to last a year
    100% true.

    I hardly think that they make the majority of their money on videos anyways. Maybe 5-10% tops. Of course, should that income stream disappear, they have to have other ways to make up for it (increasing injuries always does the trick methinks!)

    Still, you factor in all the free boosters and they might even lose money on the videos --> People get tons of free boosters = People dont buy enough boosters = they dont waste enough tokens = they dont spend enough money.

    If I were Nordeus, and if I could survive without the revenue stream of the booster vids, I would just not bring them back. If I did, it would be programmed to only view once per account, per day, regardless of your browser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracicot View Post
    100% true.

    I hardly think that they make the majority of their money on videos anyways. Maybe 5-10% tops. Of course, should that income stream disappear, they have to have other ways to make up for it (increasing injuries always does the trick methinks!)

    Still, you factor in all the free boosters and they might even lose money on the videos --> People get tons of free boosters = People dont buy enough boosters = they dont waste enough tokens = they dont spend enough money.

    If I were Nordeus, and if I could survive without the revenue stream of the booster vids, I would just not bring them back. If I did, it would be programmed to only view once per account, per day, regardless of your browser.
    what Nordeus forget is that indirectly it will hit token buyers too, as with easier league ? now why Token buyers need to invest more? well unless they want to win the cup

    is like UK gov, they think buy cutting public jobs , private sector will compensate that .. what happen is the inverse bcz with less costumers (bcz of cuts), private sectors need to cut too ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by cracicot View Post
    100% true.

    I hardly think that they make the majority of their money on videos anyways. Maybe 5-10% tops. Of course, should that income stream disappear, they have to have other ways to make up for it (increasing injuries always does the trick methinks!)

    Still, you factor in all the free boosters and they might even lose money on the videos --> People get tons of free boosters = People dont buy enough boosters = they dont waste enough tokens = they dont spend enough money.

    If I were Nordeus, and if I could survive without the revenue stream of the booster vids, I would just not bring them back. If I did, it would be programmed to only view once per account, per day, regardless of your browser.
    Quote Originally Posted by shwanko07 View Post
    a year !! is not like a nuclear physics .. if nordues can't fix that in a day(s) , then they shouldn't be in software programming business
    if it took a year, am sure bcz they want it to last a year
    whether is A or B .. this is my last season .. am joining T35 league .. and will never click any offer ever .. am so happy now .. less time wasted

    Did you two forgot already of GK's bug? How long did it take them to fix it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan O'Bree View Post
    Did you two forgot already of GK's bug? How long did it take them to fix it?
    Sorry, this is news to me...they fixed it???

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracicot View Post
    100% true.

    I hardly think that they make the majority of their money on videos anyways. Maybe 5-10% tops. Of course, should that income stream disappear, they have to have other ways to make up for it (increasing injuries always does the trick methinks!)

    Still, you factor in all the free boosters and they might even lose money on the videos --> People get tons of free boosters = People dont buy enough boosters = they dont waste enough tokens = they dont spend enough money.

    If I were Nordeus, and if I could survive without the revenue stream of the booster vids, I would just not bring them back. If I did, it would be programmed to only view once per account, per day, regardless of your browser.
    If I may .... a quick search will show that Nordeus would have an annual turnover of over 1B Euro (based on 2011 when they signed with BWin and reportedly had a proforma revenue of 800M Euro with an EBITDA of 200MEuro...very healthy!). Also reportedly, anywhere between 2M to 5M monthly (active) users on T11. Even at half the low watermark - at 1M users buying an average of $25/- tokens per month... on the very low side - thats a revenue stream of 300M$?!? If those rather conservative 1M users click an average of 2 vids / day - thats 60M clicks a month & 720M clicks a year ... at 1cent a click (fair?).. thats only 7.2M$. The rest presumably comes from grants, advertising, branding etc ...

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    If I were Nordeus management :-) and were willing to trade off 50% of "click-revenue" for a 5% increase in token revenue... wouldnt need to go to any business school to figure that out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdsouza View Post
    If I may .... a quick search will show that Nordeus would have an annual turnover of over 1B Euro (based on 2011 when they signed with BWin and reportedly had a proforma revenue of 800M Euro with an EBITDA of 200MEuro...very healthy!). Also reportedly, anywhere between 2M to 5M monthly (active) users on T11. Even at half the low watermark - at 1M users buying an average of $25/- tokens per month... on the very low side - thats a revenue stream of 300M$?!? If those rather conservative 1M users click an average of 2 vids / day - thats 60M clicks a month & 720M clicks a year ... at 1cent a click (fair?).. thats only 7.2M$. The rest presumably comes from grants, advertising, branding etc ...

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    If I were Nordeus management :-) and were willing to trade off 50% of "click-revenue" for a 5% increase in token revenue... wouldnt need to go to any business school to figure that out...
    Exactly. I suspected that the vid revenue was small peanuts. If this be true, then say bye-bye to the booster vids for a loooooooooooong time folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdsouza View Post
    1M users click an average of 2 vids / day - thats 60M clicks a month & 720M clicks a year ... at 1cent a click (fair?).. thats only 7.2M$.
    Well, I think you are too low with 1 cent per view... This sort of ads usually are much more expensive for the advertiser. Would calculate with at least 3 to 5 cent and as T11 has a very interesting audience for advertisers that usually cannot be reached very easy it even might be more...

    Et ceterum censeo Videos should be boycotted until Nordeus rewards them with boosters again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdsouza View Post
    If I may .... a quick search will show that Nordeus would have an annual turnover of over 1B Euro (based on 2011 when they signed with BWin and reportedly had a proforma revenue of 800M Euro with an EBITDA of 200MEuro...very healthy!). Also reportedly, anywhere between 2M to 5M monthly (active) users on T11. Even at half the low watermark - at 1M users buying an average of $25/- tokens per month... on the very low side - thats a revenue stream of 300M$?!? If those rather conservative 1M users click an average of 2 vids / day - thats 60M clicks a month & 720M clicks a year ... at 1cent a click (fair?).. thats only 7.2M$. The rest presumably comes from grants, advertising, branding etc ...

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    If I were Nordeus management :-) and were willing to trade off 50% of "click-revenue" for a 5% increase in token revenue... wouldnt need to go to any business school to figure that out...
    confused? on how many things you get wrong imo.. you are deluded to think Token buyers are about 15%-20% of T11 users, you must be joking ..!! i played 7 seasons till now, I think token buyers are not that 1% of game users, i only had seen only about 5 token buyers in a league or CL out of possible 546 teams , this is a rating of 1% and all were spending like 200-300T in average , which give a total of let us say 2000T=$200, so overall is 550 teams spend together about $200, so for buying tokens, this is equal to 32p per user for a whole season .. i used to click 10-20 videos a day . so that is 15p a day ( $4.2 a season) and that is for 1P per ads and i think it is more , i actually hit 30 videos at times.. ok let us say not all have access to videos, so let us give it 4-5 per person a day, and let us say it is 2P per video that is still $2.42 a season ... 15 times more than token buyers ... Token buyers aren't that many or pay that much ..
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    Since there are only moneybooster vids, i have not clicked it a single time!! And there will be no clicks from me in the future until the boosterpack vids are back + no real money spend to the game. I suggest to do the same, cheers

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