Why why why do I lose to poor teams

[cracicot]

Hello,

your team probably does not like playing your current formation. Currently I'm Level 2 too and I have a quality of 24,2. I'm using tokens too, I've earned many of them through surveys. I figured out that my team hates many formations but it prefers 4-5-1V and 3-2-2-2-1 Butterfly.

I've been playing 3-2-2-2-1 Butterfly almost the whole season and also almost the whole last season. On my first league, I finished on first place in league and I only lost like 5 or 6 games. This season I lost two cup games and one league game (today), but I'm still the first place in league and I'm in the semifinals of the champions league.

I recommend you to change the settings of your team. You could try removing arrows if you have some and you could also change the players which shoot freekicks, corners and stuff. Maybe your team likes playing counter-formations, maybe it wants to play offensive formations. Also make sure your players always have a good morale.

As I said, my team clearly loves a offensive 3-2-2-2-1 Butterfly. It's just a matter of time until you find the right setting and formation for your team.

Regards,
Announcement

A team or player cannot "like" or "love" a formation. These are emotions and are not programmed into the game. butterfly formation has its strengths as well as its weaknesses. it all depends on the formations and quality of your league opponents.

I just disagree with finding a "right" formation for a team. What is normally done is to find a formation and pick the proper players to fill it. I have multi-purpose players that allow me to play any formation. And I dont often lose because I choose the proper formation to play against my opponent. When I do lose, its not usually about formation.

to the OP: 5Q difference is not miles ahead. It is a nice buffer zone of quality, but hardly overpowering. when you get to 10-15Q ahead of the opponents and lose, then you have every reason to hit the VENT THREAD. You have to realize that up to 5Q, it is fairly regular to have a tough game.

[gazbert]

A team or player cannot "like" or "love" a formation. These are emotions and are not programmed into the game. butterfly formation has its strengths as well as its weaknesses. it all depends on the formations and quality of your league opponents.

I just disagree with finding a "right" formation for a team. What is normally done is to find a formation and pick the proper players to fill it. I have multi-purpose players that allow me to play any formation. And I dont often lose because I choose the proper formation to play against my opponent. When I do lose, its not usually about formation.

to the OP: 5Q difference is not miles ahead. It is a nice buffer zone of quality, but hardly overpowering. when you get to 10-15Q ahead of the opponents and lose, then you have every reason to hit the VENT THREAD. You have to realize that up to 5Q, it is fairly regular to have a tough game.

But losing to teams with ten men and injured players and I have 15% bonus that's a joke whether they are only 4-5 quality behind if they don't care about the game take them out at the end of the season my brother has a team yet he's not played it in 3 months yet he gets promoted every season now he's level four lol that's surely not right why not just disable his team he clearly ain't interested and I know he will never play it again

[magic3]

But losing to teams with ten men and injured players and I have 15% bonus that's a joke whether they are only 4-5 quality behind if they don't care about the game take them out at the end of the season my brother has a team yet he's not played it in 3 months yet he gets promoted every season now he's level four lol that's surely not right why not just disable his team he clearly ain't interested and I know he will never play it again

Nordeus claims the team gets deleted after 70 days of no activity.

[Golden Boys FC]

A team or player cannot "like" or "love" a formation. These are emotions and are not programmed into the game. butterfly formation has its strengths as well as its weaknesses. it all depends on the formations and quality of your league opponents.

I just disagree with finding a "right" formation for a team. What is normally done is to find a formation and pick the proper players to fill it. I have multi-purpose players that allow me to play any formation. And I dont often lose because I choose the proper formation to play against my opponent. When I do lose, its not usually about formation.

to the OP: 5Q difference is not miles ahead. It is a nice buffer zone of quality, but hardly overpowering. when you get to 10-15Q ahead of the opponents and lose, then you have every reason to hit the VENT THREAD. You have to realize that up to 5Q, it is fairly regular to have a tough game.

@cracicot

This is the 2nd time I've seen you write about emotions not being written into the game, where is the evidence to support this?

Quite clearly many have directly or indirectly shown that emotions do play a part in the game, within this thread one op talks about being 3-0 up and winning easily and then changing formation he scrapes a 4-3 win, surely that could be seen as his players not liking or being used to playing the new formation.

I strongly believe that players/teams take time to 'learn' and get used to playing a formation and that some players (as I demonstrated in the last thread that you poo poo'd the idea of emotions playing a part in the game) prefer and play better on a certain side on Central roles DC DMC MC AMC ST.

JMO

[cracicot]

@cracicot

This is the 2nd time I've seen you write about emotions not being written into the game, where is the evidence to support this?

Quite clearly many have directly or indirectly shown that emotions do play a part in the game, within this thread one op talks about being 3-0 up and winning easily and then changing formation he scrapes a 4-3 win, surely that could be seen as his players not liking or being used to playing the new formation.

I strongly believe that players/teams take time to 'learn' and get used to playing a formation and that some players (as I demonstrated in the last thread that you poo poo'd the idea of emotions playing a part in the game) prefer and play better on a certain side on Central roles DC DMC MC AMC ST.

JMO

Dude, no offense, but when you can show me that Deep Blue high-fived everyone in the room when "IT" beat chess Grandmaster Garry Kasparov, then I will believe that you can have programs with emotions. Until then, I will continue to believe that only the most sophisticated computers can "simulate" emotions. I think it is safe to say that T11 does not rent time on these computers. I think it is also safe to say that T11 does not yet have the sophistication necessary to simulate emotions.

You asked for proof/evidence to support my "theory" (lol), but just the same, where is your "evidence" that emotions are written into the game?

Do you know that this is not based on real life? You are not controlling REAL people by choosing certain options on your screen. This is NOT Gamer.

Do I really have to provide proof that emotions are not written into the game? Really.

IF Striker1 gets fouled by any player THEN
Striker1 spits at the opponent AND gets redcard

IF Striker1 gets played out of position THEN
Striker1 sulks and calls agent and morale decreases
AND IF Manager1 renews contract THEN player has bunga-bunga parties with Berlusconi
AND morale increases

REALLY?

This could be interesting!
Ronaldo is away and in the clear!
Ronaldo shoots!
But the ball skims the crossbar!
It almost went in!
Ronaldo runs up to the ref and punches him in the head out of frustration and then gives the crying face!
The ref has no hesitation!
Red Card!

This is the extent of emotion programmed into the game. It cannot think on its own, you cannot hurt the games feelings, nor can you hurt the feelings of any player programmed into the game...because they dont have any. They cannot "learn", as you put it. Maybe, just maybe, their relative numbers can increase when played in the same position over a few games and decrease when played out of position, but if this is the case, you have to change your terminology. You have to remember this is all lines of code and numbers in a matrix. the matrix pulls out results based on the numbers that are supplied.

I cant believe I have to even respond to such nonsense in the first place, let alone make up funny **** to make my point.

JMHO

Nothing counts in the game apart from nordeus making money if they determine you are losing the game before kick off when they take over then no matter what you do you losing its a game that is not designed like real life I won a game 14-0 and I've had a few 8-0 9-0 and so have my friends what team ever wins 14-0 what a stupid thing for them to design

Even Spain only won 10-0 against the whipping boys of the confederation cup so don't see how anyone on this game wins 14-0 even 9-0
I played my friend who is level 10 I'm level 2 I did it to see the outcome he beat me 6-0 and he's 64.3 quality I was 26.7 at the time that's a realistic result but there's just no consistency which means it it slightly fixed like it or not the games great but its also a great money making con

You mean with the quality difference being almost 40Q, you didnt beat him? That is not RIGHT! You should have won 2-0 with one player sent off with a red card and another injured in the 15th minute and not replaced. Funny how that happens more times than it should...which is NEVER!

until i know more about this matrix that they use, I really can only say that the results are very inconsistant at any give time.

[gazbert]

Dude, no offense, but when you can show me that Deep Blue high-fived everyone in the room when "IT" beat chess Grandmaster Garry Kasparov, then I will believe that you can have programs with emotions. Until then, I will continue to believe that only the most sophisticated computers can "simulate" emotions. I think it is safe to say that T11 does not rent time on these computers. I think it is also safe to say that T11 does not yet have the sophistication necessary to simulate emotions.

You asked for proof/evidence to support my "theory" (lol), but just the same, where is your "evidence" that emotions are written into the game?

Do you know that this is not based on real life? You are not controlling REAL people by choosing certain options on your screen. This is NOT Gamer.

Do I really have to provide proof that emotions are not written into the game? Really.

IF Striker1 gets fouled by any player THEN
Striker1 spits at the opponent AND gets redcard

IF Striker1 gets played out of position THEN
Striker1 sulks and calls agent and morale decreases
AND IF Manager1 renews contract THEN player has bunga-bunga parties with Berlusconi
AND morale increases

REALLY?

This could be interesting!
Ronaldo is away and in the clear!
Ronaldo shoots!
But the ball skims the crossbar!
It almost went in!
Ronaldo runs up to the ref and punches him in the head out of frustration and then gives the crying face!
The ref has no hesitation!
Red Card!

This is the extent of emotion programmed into the game. It cannot think on its own, you cannot hurt the games feelings, nor can you hurt the feelings of any player programmed into the game...because they dont have any. They cannot "learn", as you put it. Maybe, just maybe, their relative numbers can increase when played in the same position over a few games and decrease when played out of position, but if this is the case, you have to change your terminology. You have to remember this is all lines of code and numbers in a matrix. the matrix pulls out results based on the numbers that are supplied.

I cant believe I have to even respond to such nonsense in the first place, let alone make up funny **** to make my point.

JMHO



You mean with the quality difference being almost 40Q, you didnt beat him? That is not RIGHT! You should have won 2-0 with one player sent off with a red card and another injured in the 15th minute and not replaced. Funny how that happens more times than it should...which is NEVER!



until i know more about this matrix that they use, I really can only say that the results are very inconsistant at any give time.

Hahaha I laughed so hard when I read this mate its exactly my thinking there's no emotion involved at all
Notice aswell the ref always consults his linesman for penalty decisions haha with all the money nordeus makes they should change a few of these stupid things

[magic3]

Hahaha I laughed so hard when I read this mate its exactly my thinking there's no emotion involved at all
Notice aswell the ref always consults his linesman for penalty decisions haha with all the money nordeus makes they should change a few of these stupid things

Ref does not always consult linesman for penalty decisions.

[gazbert]

Ref does not always consult linesman for penalty decisions.

Well every penalty I have had for and against me he has also
Xxxx takes the corner
Xxxx uses his elbow in the air clearly a foul
So why his he not sent off
It's just a computerised game that a simple click off a button determines the outcome before kick off no tactics make a difference when game is in play

[cracicot]

Ref does not always consult linesman for penalty decisions.

Howard Webb has proven what you say. But he always consults with Sir Fergie.

[gazbert]

Howard Webb has proven what you say. But he always consults with Sir Fergie.

Hahaha thank f*** fergie has finally retired
maybe Suarez was playing this game and though its ok to spit and bite people
he must of played this and seen you can elbow people on corners and spit at the ref so he though sod it ill try biting someone top eleven you are responsible for this lol