Wake up Nordeus!!!!!.....again

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Originally Posted by BigB79

Cat Harrison.....If Nordeus done their job there would be no need for the 'forum police'. I understand if your fedup but so am I. Im fed up with Nordeus having ripped me off and doing nothing to improve this game. Im fed up being fobbed off by Nordeus when I ask questions about supposed updates.

Do you think its acceptable for it to take over 2 years to change the friendly request system? Do you think it's acceptable to take over a year to change how many tokens it takes to change a players squad number? I could go on and on.

These kind if threads are Nordeus' fault not ours. As for the 'vent thread', all that is is a big thread so people at Nordeus can ignore all the complaints. If you don't want people complaining then get Nordeus to do their job properly.

At the end of the day this game is not totally free, I am(was) a paying customer and expect way better customer service when a company takes my money.


If your here to help then can you give us an answer on where we are with the friendly request system changes?

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Hope this game will be improved a lot once their 24 open positions are fulfilled by the right persons..

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Originally Posted by jey2208

Hope this game will be improved a lot once their 24 open positions are fulfilled by the right persons..

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Hopefully. By looks of the jobs available at Nordeus we were right. They don't actually have the people who can make these promised changes. I think T11 is too big for Nordeus.

I think some people have misunderstood what I was trying to say in my main post. I'm the same as all others, and get frustrated with some of the things that the game throws up, but what I was trying to say, is that the game can be played and enjoyed by just not taking it too seriously.

My main point about the friendlies situation, is that I believe that the problem doesn't really lie with Nordeus. It is with your/our friends. Surely if these so-called friends showed respect, instead of just setting matches willy-nilly, then the programmers wouldn't need to make any changes.

On the point about Nordeus having that token sale last weekend, and that it was because fewer people were buying tokens, well I don't know what other games other people play, but at the same time that T11 had their token sale, the same thing was happening in at least 3 other Fb games, at the same time, so I think that may have been something to do with FaceBook.

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Originally Posted by Raykco

I think some people have misunderstood what I was trying to say in my main post. I'm the same as all others, and get frustrated with some of the things that the game throws up, but what I was trying to say, is that the game can be played and enjoyed by just not taking it too seriously.

My main point about the friendlies situation, is that I believe that the problem doesn't really lie with Nordeus. It is with your/our friends. Surely if these so-called friends showed respect, instead of just setting matches willy-nilly, then the programmers wouldn't need to make any changes.

On the point about Nordeus having that token sale last weekend, and that it was because fewer people were buying tokens, well I don't know what other games other people play, but at the same time that T11 had their token sale, the same thing was happening in at least 3 other Fb games, at the same time, so I think that may have been something to do with FaceBook.

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Raykco, as long as you continue to say that it is up to individual people to stop friendlies, you will be in the minority. Think about having to ask thousands of people to stop rather than having a simple easy programmed solution. It is called prevention. Nordeus can prevent EVERY friendly from being unwanted, but they chose not to. They, like you, feel that people should be held accountable, which is just the wrong way to approach this issue. It is just a nightmare to ask everyone to be on their best behaviour and we know that a few bad apples will ruin it for everyone.

It is just unreasonable to expect EVERYONE to play nice. It is reasonable to expect Nordeus to program a fix for this. One is a hopeful fix, the other is a guaranteed fix. Which one do you think is most likely to be successful, because at the end of the day, that is what matters.

Throwing something else into the mix.....and don't know if it would help......but is there another 'Ask the devs-live' on twitter like there was on 4 Mar this year.

Mind you.....i had a flick through the questions and replies from the devs and although i really enjoy T11,i have to say a lot of the improvements they indicated , havent actually been realised.

For instance :

Q. 'Will it be possible to watch our matches live....not only text....but like when you watch a game on tv ?'

A. 'There could be a nice surprise coming in the next couple of months'

Guess thats been shelved then.....suppose they did use the word 'could'

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Originally Posted by cracicot

Raykco, as long as you continue to say that it is up to individual people to stop friendlies, you will be in the minority. Think about having to ask thousands of people to stop rather than having a simple easy programmed solution. It is called prevention. Nordeus can prevent EVERY friendly from being unwanted, but they chose not to. They, like you, feel that people should be held accountable, which is just the wrong way to approach this issue. It is just a nightmare to ask everyone to be on their best behaviour and we know that a few bad apples will ruin it for everyone.

It is just unreasonable to expect EVERYONE to play nice. It is reasonable to expect Nordeus to program a fix for this. One is a hopeful fix, the other is a guaranteed fix. Which one do you think is most likely to be successful, because at the end of the day, that is what matters.

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I understand what you are saying, and in an ideal world, there wouldn't be a problem. But with selective managing of a friend list, you don't get unwanted friendlies in the first place. Can I give a scenario that is similar, but not to do with T11. If you are on a social website and have friends on there. Now, one of them sends you an unwanted message that contains a virus. Who would you hold responsible, the person who sent it, or the website in question? I know this unwanted friendlies is a huge problem, but surely everyone should take responsibility, not just the game programmers. I realise we will never agree on this, but I'm just trying to take a balanced view.

Don't wake 'em up please... let 'em sleep.. if theyre wokenthey'll probably f!@k something else up in addition!!!

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Originally Posted by BigB79

I know but does that mean I shouldn't demand answers? I don't mind the game having problems nothing in this world is perfect. What I do mind is nothing being done about those problems. As I said I've paid money to play this game and expect better back from Nordeus.

If they just made simple, and they are simple, changes then I wouldn't need to keep posting the same thing multiple times.

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Originally Posted by Raykco

I understand what you are saying, and in an ideal world, there wouldn't be a problem. But with selective managing of a friend list, you don't get unwanted friendlies in the first place. Can I give a scenario that is similar, but not to do with T11. If you are on a social website and have friends on there. Now, one of them sends you an unwanted message that contains a virus. Who would you hold responsible, the person who sent it, or the website in question? I know this unwanted friendlies is a huge problem, but surely everyone should take responsibility, not just the game programmers. I realise we will never agree on this, but I'm just trying to take a balanced view.

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The problem with your argument is that even Nordeus disagree with you. If you go to the Nordeus support site there is a page called 'feature request' where someone first brought this problem up. Nordeus agreed and marked it as planned, that was 2 years ago. It doesn't take 2 years to make this change.

In fact if you go on that page you will see a whole load of very simple requests to improve the game and that Nordeus have marked as planned and still haven't done.

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Originally Posted by Raykco

I think some people have misunderstood what I was trying to say in my main post. I'm the same as all others, and get frustrated with some of the things that the game throws up, but what I was trying to say, is that the game can be played and enjoyed by just not taking it too seriously.

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Rayco it is ok for 2 or 3 seasons not to take the game seriously. After the 3rd or mostly 4th season; you start to take the game serously. If you don't take a game seriosly; you would quit after couple months. However after couple months you should take the game serious to continue playing.

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Originally Posted by Raykco

I understand what you are saying, and in an ideal world, there wouldn't be a problem. But with selective managing of a friend list, you don't get unwanted friendlies in the first place. Can I give a scenario that is similar, but not to do with T11. If you are on a social website and have friends on there. Now, one of them sends you an unwanted message that contains a virus. Who would you hold responsible, the person who sent it, or the website in question? I know this unwanted friendlies is a huge problem, but surely everyone should take responsibility, not just the game programmers. I realise we will never agree on this, but I'm just trying to take a balanced view.

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The virus is not a good example; since most of the times viruses are sent without one's own will. This friendlies are intentionally and I am sure we all have as shole friends. They would actually make fun how they ruined your Champs. Final on friends gathering. Even if they don't make it intentionally; they would still ruin your next game. I wouldn't brake up friendship for a game. You are suggesting not to take the game seriously, but to brake up frienship?

I am still very surprised that we debate for a such a small feature. If we were to talk about match engine I would understand. But we are trying to symphatize for such a small feature. If Nordeus could deal with this; we might debate about more serious aspects, and I am willing to symphtaize about them. But for such a small change I can't be more understanding after waiting for 2 years.

I know I am in dreamland, but I just hope we can get over about this friendlies and talk about more serious changes.

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Originally Posted by Ahmet Aygun

Rayco it is ok for 2 or 3 seasons not to take the game seriously. After the 3rd or mostly 4th season; you start to take the game serously. If you don't take a game seriosly; you would quit after couple months. However after couple months you should take the game serious to continue playing.



The virus is not a good example; since most of the times viruses are sent without one's own will. This friendlies are intentionally and I am sure we all have as shole friends. They would actually make fun how they ruined your Champs. Final on friends gathering. Even if they don't make it intentionally; they would still ruin your next game. I wouldn't brake up friendship for a game. You are suggesting not to take the game seriously, but to brake up frienship?

I am still very surprised that we debate for a such a small feature. If we were to talk about match engine I would understand. But we are trying to symphatize for such a small feature. If Nordeus could deal with this; we might debate about more serious aspects, and I am willing to symphtaize about them. But for such a small change I can't be more understanding after waiting for 2 years.

I know I am in dreamland, but I just hope we can get over about this friendlies and talk about more serious changes.

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I can't see there being any changes until they get people in who know how to make them. I think the problem is that they don't currently don't have the correct personal to make these changes and thought they could get away with it.

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Originally Posted by BigB79

I can't see there being any changes until they get people in who know how to make them. I think the problem is that they don't currently don't have the correct personal to make these changes and thought they could get away with it.

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I find that a piss poor arguement. With the money they are making and the game as it is currently, I find it hard to believe that they dont have people who know how to program or to fix the issues. The odds are that they just dont want to .

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Originally Posted by BigB79

I can't see there being any changes until they get people in who know how to make them. I think the problem is that they don't currently don't have the correct personal to make these changes and thought they could get away with it.

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Originally Posted by cracicot

I find that a piss poor arguement. With the money they are making and the game as it is currently, I find it hard to believe that they dont have people who know how to program or to fix the issues. The odds are that they just dont want to .

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Either way it is a shame for Nordeus. People who contribute to this thread are not asking free tokens or easy way to beat opponents. These are feedbacks from people who plays the game, and the changes would bring the game into whole new level. Games that does resists changes would sooner or later die. It is irresistable, and if they resist to make changes we will see the end.

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Originally Posted by cracicot

I find that a piss poor arguement. With the money they are making and the game as it is currently, I find it hard to believe that they dont have people who know how to program or to fix the issues. The odds are that they just dont want to .

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Don't get me wrong, im not saying it as an excuse for them but if you look at the jobs Nordeus are advertising on their site I genuinely believe they don't have the right people at the company to make the changes. Surely if they had the right people they would make the simple changes, why would they not? Who would be daft enough to not want to improve their company if they can? Surely they are not that daft?

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Originally Posted by BigB79

Don't get me wrong, im not saying it as an excuse for them but if you look at the jobs Nordeus are advertising on their site I genuinely believe they don't have the right people at the company to make the changes. Surely if they had the right people they would make the simple changes, why would they not? Who would be daft enough to not want to improve their company if they can? Surely they are not that daft?

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Im not on your case. I just dont think that they are missing anyone. If so, they arent paying enough it seems. its easy money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by cracicot

Im not on your case. I just dont think that they are missing anyone. If so, they arent paying enough it seems. its easy money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I think they originally thought they could set up this game and just let it run but got caught out. They must know they could earn alot more cash if they just made a few easy changes, why would anyone not do it? I can't believe that they are not doing it because they can't be bothered.

The area of their company that I think they can't be bothered is their customer service. They didn't even tell us they were changing the solution for the friendly fix until MDKII mentioned it in a thread, it should have been started in its own thread and announced properly. He said on Friday that he was going to find out about the player number change cost. Normally I would expect an answer back tomorrow, lets see?

If enough people keep on at them they might actually improve?

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Originally Posted by BigB79

So what your saying is we shouldn't complain and just let Nordeus do what they want? Wonder what kind of world we would live in if noone complained about anything?

Surely what any company in the world want is to have new AND old paying customers? What company in the world would be happy to lose paying customers?!

Why should Nordeus fix it?... Because they should want to produce the best game that they possibly can..... Nordeus aren't very bright if they sit in their office knowing that they can make the game better but think nah screw it lets not bother. Great business sense that is!!!!

Lets get real here...Nordeus do this to make money, surely they would make more if they kept old and new users, ,no?

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If they are still getting folk paying and playing then why should they care? Does Greggs the 'bakers' care that their food tastes like **** and is as healthy as the bag it comes in? Of course they don't- because they know that simple minded sheep have nothing to better to do than complain whilst still pumping money in- now that is what Einstein described as the definition of insane

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About this Forum:

i got nothing against this forum nor its users and mods. In my opinion, and correct me if i'm wrong, its a purely community driven stage for us users to gather (valuable?!) information how to play t11. But in the other hand shouldn't it be also a feedback channel for the developer to EASIER find out what their users desires are? and if so try to make the greater lot happy if possible? I had an "argument" about the only "officials" here are basically "just" doing police work and also (this is for you cat) try to help the users at their best effort. I'm sure they do...but where is the REAL information..the stuff that makes US users having more fun because we actually think its a competitive game which it is only to a certain degree right now. I'm sure i don't have to put any examples in because this forum is filled with them.

I really don't feel like pointing fingers here but i really don't see a point in defending and thus supporting a lazy game studio. And Cat...Rules Shmools...i get enough rules tossed at me in reality that i sometimes really don't care about rules that censor my opinion. So closing down threads, just because someone says what he thinks about some ppl (that probably not even read it) who don't add any value to this platform (again correct me if i'm wrong), is just utter nonsense and doesn't help anymore as the rant in the closed thread.

So what's the point in trying to make suggestions if nothing really happens even if a huge mass actually would be happy having it? even if its just really minor things. Be honest most of the things we ask are really minor bs that should be easily done.

i actually really don't know why i bother again to write this stuff here its not gonna get anyone anywhere as like the most things in this forum they'll end up on an endless list of unfulfilled wishes.

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Wrote that into the vent thread.

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Originally Posted by Macca0507

If they are still getting folk paying and playing then why should they care? Does Greggs the 'bakers' care that their food tastes like **** and is as healthy as the bag it comes in? Of course they don't- because they know that simple minded sheep have nothing to better to do than complain whilst still pumping money in- now that is what Einstein described as the definition of insane

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wow you seem to be exactly the cash cow nordeus is looking for...

The problem are the MAJOR flaws in this game.

Ratings, Injuries, Formations, Tactics. Now those kinda make the decision win or loose. So its kinda important that these values are trustworthy or at least understandable.

Now here comes my problem. How should i understand my goalkeeper getting 5 and 6 after shutouts makeing several saves each time. My GK is now on a 5/6 streak his 2nd season.

Injuries arent as much of a problem for me as i don't really train them a lot besides matches and friendlies. My Avarage injured players are 1-2 at the same time.

Formations are really f!@ked up. just nearly got kicked out of the cup by an illegal formation club. he didn't even set up the team upfront. Had 2 learned defenders played with 4. So in this case nordeus rewards rather those not putting in any effort. The loss of possession for illegal formation is darn stupid. At this point using illegal formation is not gettin penalized at all.

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Originally Posted by Mischa Cali

wow you seem to be exactly the cash cow nordeus is looking for...

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You obviously miss the point. I (and many others) choose to buy things to enhance our game, but others play it for the free game that it is. It's a matter of choice. The fact that it was set up as a free game should tell people something. Get over it people, or better yet, come up with something yourselves if it's that f!@king easy and you care so much.

(BTW I don't spend ludicrous amounts of money- I buy the 37 token pack at the start of each season)

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Originally Posted by Mischa Cali

The problem are the MAJOR flaws in this game.

Ratings, Injuries, Formations, Tactics. Now those kinda make the decision win or loose. So its kinda important that these values are trustworthy or at least understandable.

Now here comes my problem. How should i understand my goalkeeper getting 5 and 6 after shutouts makeing several saves each time. My GK is now on a 5/6 streak his 2nd season.

Injuries arent as much of a problem for me as i don't really train them a lot besides matches and friendlies. My Avarage injured players are 1-2 at the same time.

Formations are really f!@ked up. just nearly got kicked out of the cup by an illegal formation club. he didn't even set up the team upfront. Had 2 learned defenders played with 4. So in this case nordeus rewards rather those not putting in any effort. The loss of possession for illegal formation is darn stupid. At this point using illegal formation is not gettin penalized at all.

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you NAILED it! This is exactly the issue I have...these "small" issues happen to be the most important aspects of the game, but they are being treated as non-important by Nordeus.

They really have to penalize these illegal formations more.

They really have to make the ratings more understandable.

This game is going nowhere fast

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Originally Posted by Macca0507

You obviously miss the point. I (and many others) choose to buy things to enhance our game, but others play it for the free game that it is. It's a matter of choice. The fact that it was set up as a free game should tell people something. Get over it people, or better yet, come up with something yourselves if it's that ****ing easy and you care so much.

(BTW I don't spend ludicrous amounts of money- I buy the 37 token pack at the start of each season)

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So what your saying is we should never complain? I run my own business and I wish you were one of my customers!!! If I had a flaw in my business and a customer pointed it out to me what do you think would happen if I said 'tough you'll just need to get over it!'.

I've had my business for 13 years and whenever a customer points something out to me I take it on board and if it improves my company I implement that change. Not only that about 3 or 4 times a year I actually ask my customers what I could do to improve my service to them or come up with ideas myself and ask them what they think. And i believe that is the reason why about 90% of my customers have been coming to me for over 10 years. I don't have to rely on getting new customers because I take care of my loyal regular customers who keep my diary full.

That is what, in my opinion, any good company should be doing, look after their loyal regular customer.

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Originally Posted by Macca0507

You obviously miss the point. I (and many others) choose to buy things to enhance our game, but others play it for the free game that it is. It's a matter of choice. The fact that it was set up as a free game should tell people something. Get over it people, or better yet, come up with something yourselves if it's that ****ing easy and you care so much.

(BTW I don't spend ludicrous amounts of money- I buy the 37 token pack at the start of each season)

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Sorry Macca, you are the one missing the point.

this game was setup to look free, but this game was setup to make money. This is a game that rewards those who pay for it. Make no mistake, they have the right to do this, but they should be putting some effort into this considering they charge much more than a lot of the pay-for-play models games out there.

This is not meant to be a free game. this game is meant to start for free and entice you into spending money. Everything is geared towards trying to make you spend your money. What makes it harder to take is the suckers that pay hundreds or thousands of dollars on a game where they(nordeus) have no clue what they are doing in terms of actual gameplay.

to request that we come up with something ourselves is a bit ridiculous dont you think? We are not all internet programmers and dont all have the capital required to immediately compete with an established game (lol).

You think you are enhancing your game, but there are people out there that dont pay anything and can beat your team. Its a facade put in place by nordeus to get you to think that your money gives you an advantage all of the time. realistically, it doesnt because the troll engine lends some weird sort of justice and allows the LOL teams to beat the Token teams. So enhance your team if you want, as there are probably hundreds of others doing the same and complaining that they dont win EVERY game even though they pay to win. I know you are not like that, but look at all the threads started that complain that they should have won because they have a better quality team. You KNOW they put money into it, or they really wouldnt complain as much. If I put $100/month into this game, I better be winning 99% of my games or I would be pissed!

My point is this: this game may LOOK free but it not MEANT to be free. What makes me laugh is that they want to give advantages to those who pay for winning, but they cant even get that right. Just shows you what sort of devs they have working for them. I know that investment is supposed to give you an advantage, and for the most part, it does, but there are too many troll results that show that Nordeus doesnt care about those who pay...they just want your money, and they will do EVERYTHING possible to get it.

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Originally Posted by Macca0507

Nordeus have mad a game, for free. If people choose to spend their money on it then that is THEIR choice. It is quite easy to play the game for free and not buy any tokens but if you CHOOSE to spend money on it then it is YOUR CHOICE. And it is a choice I make.

Nobody is forcing anyones arm here (unlike other Facebook games where spending actual money is the only way to get on in the game).

Don't get me wrong, there are a few majorly annoying features in the game (friendlies, player ratings, etc) but why should Nordeus fix it? Honestly ask yourselves that question. They will continue to get people paying and when some stop paying for tokens, there are new users that will. I expect Nordeus are quite happy in their Ivory Towers and will not be rushing to make any significant changes soon.

Bottom line- If you don't like it then leave. This isn't Communist Russia

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I stick by my original quote. Some people just like to have a moan

complaining is a sign of caring (to an extent), would you nag on your kids if they started doing something they shouldnt?
bigb79 stated the truth up there, businesses should at least try new rhings for the customers, the least they could do is try some of our suggestions out. good news is theyre hiring new people, lets hope for a brighter future for T11

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Originally Posted by Fonz Fauzi Bin Ridho

complaining is a sign of caring (to an extent), would you nag on your kids if they started doing something they shouldnt?
bigb79 stated the truth up there, businesses should at least try new rhings for the customers, the least they could do is try some of our suggestions out. good news is theyre hiring new people, lets hope for a brighter future for T11

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Complaining is a sign of flapping your gums and having nothing better to do with your time. I just find it mildy, nay, very amusing when folk get upset over a 'free' Facebook game

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Originally Posted by Macca0507

I stick by my original quote. Some people just like to have a moan

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Do you secretly work for Nordeus? lol...

The complaints that are being made are not out order. As Fonz said complaining is a sign of caring and that is what it is for me.

I've said it before, I've been playing football manager games since I had a spectrum computer and playing play-by-mail games and the most frustrating thing about T11 is if it was run properly it could be the best football manager game, outside the FM series, that I have played in over 20 years.

So why shouldn't I push Nordeus to implement these changes and make the best game out there? It's a win-win situation, we get a great game and Nordeus make alot more money.

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Originally Posted by Macca0507

Complaining is a sign of flapping your gums and having nothing better to do with your time. I just find it mildy, nay, very amusing when folk get upset over a 'free' Facebook game

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A pretty flippant attitude Macca. Some people here actually care that the game gets better. To not take that into consideration is pretty inconsiderate.

Some people just like to have a moan? REALLY? Like Big said, if he ran a business like Nordeus, he would not be in business long. I think enough people here see something good in this game, but Nordeus doesnt give a ****. When we "moan" about it, we should not have to put up with people telling us to shutup and just play. This product is free, as you like to put it, and for the most part it is free to play, but the problem we have is that they charge you to play it and the product is incomplete and has glaring errors that make gameplay horrible at the best of times.

The problem is that they have enough of a game here to make it a success but lack the intelligence to make it better. They should make me an offer and ask me to consult. i would hire a few excellent programmers and make this game something WORTH paying for, and believe me, I have the connections. I just have no incentive to help Nordeus.

So what I didnt want to say is that you are talking pretty hypocritical. I am sure that you have complained a few times in your life but are failing to remember what it feels like. It is funny sometimes to see what people complain about on this site, and I am with you on that, but some of the complaints on here are serious and legitimate. Complaining = caring...if we didnt care, we wouldnt complain because we would just move off onto something else that we care about. So basically, you are laughing at people who care about the game so much they want to voice their concerns. Frankly, I think that is disrespectful to talk about people like that. I could go on, but I think I have made my point. Have a bit more respect for the people with legitimate complaints. they have the right to do so without being ridiculed. They have the right to expect more from nordeus. I have read many of your posts, and I expect more from you.

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Originally Posted by Macca0507

Complaining is a sign of flapping your gums and having nothing better to do with your time. I just find it mildy, nay, very amusing when folk get upset over a 'free' Facebook game

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The funny thing is your complaining about people complaining. Why dont you take your own advice if you don't like threads like this?

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Originally Posted by MDKII

We know friendlies are taking long to address. The first solution didn't sit well with many members, so we are going to try asymmetrical friendlies as mentioned already. This requires a lot of testing to make sure it works on three different platforms (desktop, android and iOS) for over 12 million players. I realize that many people see this as an "Easy" fix, but when you're dealing with such a large playerbase that plays with each other between platforms, we need to make sure nothing in the background breaks. We would rather delay a feature and make sure everything works, than push something Live that breaks the game.

As for the free number change, I'll see what's up with that.



I am sorry, but no. Each person is responsible for their behavior and we cannot be held responsible for what others do. We've had people use this excuse before for breaking the rules and it's always unpleasant for everyone.

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Hey MDKII, any news on that free number change thing that you were looking into?

I am all for lively debate, complaints, suggestions and commentary... as long as it is respectful of others and follows the rules.
I know rules can be irritating but there's reasons for them, and though you may not agree with them, as a user on this Forum they apply to you.

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Originally Posted by Cat Harrison

I am all for lively debate, complaints, suggestions and commentary... as long as it is respectful of others and follows the rules.
I know rules can be irritating but there's reasons for them, and though you may not agree with them, as a user on this Forum they apply to you.

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Can you please identify who is not following the rules and is not being respectful to others>? I know better than to do that. I am playing nice.

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Originally Posted by Macca0507

I stick by my original quote. Some people just like to have a moan

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Wow!!! Are we back to that page of the book again?

No-one in this thread is moaning. If any of the posts in this thread would be about getting RESULTS; you might have been right. All the people are trying to give their feedbacks to Nordeus, and no-one from Nordeus or from mods are saying that the feedbacks are useless or irrelivant to the game.

And all the feedback would make the game better, even mods are agree to that point. And you call all of them moans? Tell me honestly you are not the one who give reports to Nordeus about these threads are you?

well if I have to say somethings about my suggestions, is that I'm happy... (some of this are not good, but...) I think for my side, that there are 2 important things to answer, 1-friendlies, 2-hours of matches
about the 1, and as my oroginal post say, and adding ideas for a better comunication between players in the game, the idea was use the messages sistem of the game (that says ..we have injuied player... contract.. news..) to recive the invitations for the friendlies, and accept them, and too to let know to friends that we are interested in recive offers for 1 player that we wanna sell.
2- about the hours, for me it's so easy because the solution is decide when season start 1 hour of the day for the league matches (at our stadium, of course) and 1 hour for cup, and CL...
I was registred in he page of support of nordeus, and there is a section to post suggestion, and you can see the status that they have.. if it's done, posible... and I writted too because as a player too I think game can be more playable, and adapted to our life.
I'm happy 1st cos I have answer, and because I understand that a game of 11 milions of players is difficult to bring in another way in some things... too because as the girl said, they, are working for a solution in all these fields and others, that they know tht are a problem.
So, I understand that, is complicated, and that they are working for the better solution o fix that.
Now only thing that one can do is wait, and like all players, play the game like it is.

Cracicot, you need not ask who, I was making a general statement. I will try to PM people directly if I think they are being jerky or are breaking rules, so as to be respectful and not call out people publicly. I do really wish everyone would remember that there are young users on here and to mind their foul language a bit, too. :)

This thread has been better than the original, and I think has a lot of good ideas, criticism and debate in it.

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Originally Posted by cracicot

So... cant win, dont try?

What about the squeeky wheel gets the grease?

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Lets be honest that's not really panned out very well for you so far has it :P ;)

Im sure youll agree that the best way for people to get things done would be to stop buying tokens and watching vids for rest packs. Whilst people are still doing this nordeus wont do a damn thing. Theyre quite happy for new users to come in, pay to play for the first few months, realise its a crock of ****e and then leave.

WTF is an asymmetrical friendly??? Im surprised they haven't implemented that it costs 2 tokens to send a friendly request (im assuming this was the original idea a lot of members didn't like). For me its not the top priority of bugs in this game to be fixed as it can be quite simply rectified by US! I add people and im a 'once bitten twice shy' kind of guy, one friendly and they are gone! Ive four friends on here, I send and receive each of them a pack, on a daily basis with out fail and have never played any of them in a friendly!

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Originally Posted by Raykco

I've been reading all these moans about the game and have decided to contribute my own thoughts.

First of all, I am now just finishing my 16th season in the game. YES, I've been frustrated at times, but that's life. In those 16 seasons, I've won 6 trophies (4 league, 2 CL), so not as many as some of the players even in lower levels. But I play for the enjoyment of it. Now I do buy a small amount of tokens each season, (usually around 60). But now to the topic. Of course there are problems with the game (what on-line game doesn't have them). Most of the significant faults can be got around by the players themselves and don't need the programmers to sort it.

FRIENDLIES: This seems to be the main issue. Sure, unwanted matches are a pain, but that can easily remedied by us ourselves. Only have friends who are of similar mind to us. If you get these matches that you don't want, simply unfriend the person (if in game), or contact the other person and tell them not to send these requests (if on FB). I have just under 100 in game friends on here, and I only get unwanted requests on average once every two seasons.

KICK-OFF TIMES: This can be a problem, but with a global game, time zones etc, will sometimes be troublesome, so I can't really see there is a simple solution.

MATCH RESULTS: OK, we've all lost to much lower quality teams, on more than a few occasions, but that is the nature of sport. Would the game be better if the stronger team always won? I doubt it. It would get boring. And incidentally, I can't remember on too many occasions, a player complaining that they didn't think it fair that they'd beaten a much stronger team, when they shouldn't have.

INJURIES: Now this issue seems a real problem. I have to agree with people who say there are too many, but there again, nobody can know for sure what sort of tackling our opponents are using, and also we can attract injuries ourselves by using the "hard tackling" setting.

STATS/RATINGS: Frankly I can't see any issue with these. Sure, they bare no resemblance to completed matches, but does it REALLY matter? In all the time I've been playing, there is probably only a handful of times that I've even bothered to read them.

NAME CHANGING: Now this is the part that really irritates me. Some people want this facility to be free. Why? The name of a player (or their shirt number), makes no difference to the game play. Changing a name or number is only cosmetic value, and if anyone is sad enough to want to change them, then why shouldn't they pay. I've had a striker and a winger wearing #1 before. So what?

Now for the only real problem I have with the game, ILLEGAL FORMATION. I don't think this should be applicable. If we want to play without a striker, or have just two defenders, that should be our right.

On the whole, I don't think this is a bad game, and for the most part, I am happy with it. Sorry this is a bit long, and I guess I'll just be shot down for my comments, but this is my opinion.

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Mate you pretty much think on the same wave length as me for all these topics! My only major gripe is with injuries. There is a part of the season when injuries are higher, man others on here have complained about it too, if they got rid of that I would be quite happy with the game (well happy enough to play it for free.

Also imagine name changing was free? Youd be playing against 'messi' every other ****ing day LOL

many people here share the same dream for nordeus, and that is to get better. no problem with supplying feedbacks. developersll oftentimes use feedbacks from us users and a makeshift server to test out suggestions and bug reports. lets hope nordeusll do the same
id like to suggest we wait and see what happens in the coming months after they hired more people (it mightve been too long for some people but bear witb me as khris said). i probably wont be looking into this thread until some promised time arrives. im pretty sure by ages theyve got our feedback after seeing us band together with solutions and are trying to reinforce their company.
til then, may the force be with you, young nordeus, hmm

no im not a guy with any affiliations with nordeus, but what i am is some guy thats too optimistic and patient, im just hoping my contributions paid off

on a side note
im hoping nicknamesll be free though, id change my squad as followed
keeper; maneuer, buffoon
backs; gibson, vermin, murtle, kochy-kochy, jinkies
mids; fiberglass, rambo, willis, walnut, rusty
forwards; fernando torres II

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Mate you pretty much think on the same wave length as me for all these topics! My only major gripe is with injuries. There is a part of the season when injuries are higher, man others on here have complained about it too, if they got rid of that I would be quite happy with the game (well happy enough to play it for free.

Also imagine name changing was free? Youd be playing against 'messi' every other ****ing day LOL

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I maybe wrong but I don't think it's the players name people really want to be free.

I know I have brought up changing a players number to be free a few times and to be honest the only reason I've been going about is because Nordeus said that it was going to happen back in August 2012. Its more the fact that they said they would do a simple change over a year ago and still haven't done it. I agree if changing a players name was free it would end up in chaos.

As for the injuries, I don't have the same problem, im lucky if I get about 7 injuries a season and never more than 1 at a time and I do train my players everyday.

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Originally Posted by BigB79

I maybe wrong but I don't think it's the players name people really want to be free.

I know I have brought up changing a players number to be free a few times and to be honest the only reason I've been going about is because Nordeus said that it was going to happen back in August 2012. Its more the fact that they said they would do a simple change over a year ago and still haven't done it. I agree if changing a players name was free it would end up in chaos.

As for the injuries, I don't have the same problem, im lucky if I get about 7 injuries a season and never more than 1 at a time and I do train my players everyday.

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BigB79, for me it is not the injuries themselves happening that pisses me off, its the specific targeting. This may seem random to alot of people but its not. They target new signings, scouts and your best players. Funny how 3 of my 4 MCs had injuries within a day and I have a full squad of 22 players. last week, I had both my GKs out injuried for 5 and 6 days respectively - it was a good thing that I was tanking that season so it made no difference, but the fact is that their programming of injuries is meant to make it hurt you so that you spend boosters and tokens. Injuries are NOT random.

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Originally Posted by herdo

Lets be honest that's not really panned out very well for you so far has it :P ;)

Im sure youll agree that the best way for people to get things done would be to stop buying tokens and watching vids for rest packs. Whilst people are still doing this nordeus wont do a damn thing. Theyre quite happy for new users to come in, pay to play for the first few months, realise its a crock of ****e and then leave.

WTF is an asymmetrical friendly??? Im surprised they haven't implemented that it costs 2 tokens to send a friendly request (im assuming this was the original idea a lot of members didn't like). For me its not the top priority of bugs in this game to be fixed as it can be quite simply rectified by US! I add people and im a 'once bitten twice shy' kind of guy, one friendly and they are gone! Ive four friends on here, I send and receive each of them a pack, on a daily basis with out fail and have never played any of them in a friendly!

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I will keep trying until I quit this game. Even after I quit, and I will quit, i might stay on here just to "moan" about things. Ya never know what will happen: is Nordeus a train-wreck waiting to happen? IF so, I want to watch it. If not, and they succeed in making this game better, you all know who you will have to thank for helping make that happen.....yes, me and many other dedicated souls.