Please fix your d@#n game engine, wtf! anyone explain this?
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Please fix your d@#n game engine, wtf! anyone explain this?
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Ahaha! that's awesome!
Huge troll!!!
That is what i call a brillant start.
i call this Engine fail, i'm LV12 by the way...
4-4-2 vs 4-4-2 stronger team. troll engine always give adavntage to the LOL team.
by the looks of it seems that O Adin was having a ****ty day. But yea i agree, a match's result cannot be totally dependent on one player's mood more than on the team's stats/tactics.
so weaker teams winning more often than "usual" is realistic? Marc, lets get downto brass tacks here. it would be best to define what is usual or expected. out of 100 games, how many times in real life would you say that a serious underdog wins? if we can find middle ground between us, at least we agree on how to judge things.
my team 77 vs 64
I played 26 league games and lost none! - Therefore from my experience weaker teams do not win very often. BUT this is a game and of course the chances of the under dog winning are going to be increased, again if the underdog won as little as in real life weaker teams would lose interest.
this isnt about weaker teams losing interest. this is about winning. this is a game and people want to win every game unless you tank of course. that aside, give me a number out of 100 that an underdog team in the EPL should win. then out of 100 for la liga, then 100 out of bundesliga.
those 3 should give a fair average and then I will add mine, and we will get a few other voluteers to give us their numbers, first 3 to respond and that gives us 5 sets of numbers to average. then we can compare results a bit easier knowing what we think are troll results with a few more items. but this first
lol at people comparing this game to real life. This game does anything but simulate to real life situations. Is a 5* defender outrunning an entire 7* defence common in real life football? If they were reading a magazine then that would happen. Obviously there are times when the far weaker team wins but it's happening far too often in this game that it's causing people to quit.
Yawn ... Far too talked about. I think anything to do with TROLL RESULTS or MATCH TIMINGS or BOTS should either be banned or all be redirected to the vent thread. Its so boring logging in and seeing the same conversations happening daily!
Personally i think people need to get over it and stop moaning. It happens every now and again (per person) its not worth crying about! - I would much prefer these 'Troll' results now and again. It keeps stronger teams on there toes.
Plus answer me this: If there are SO MANY upsets where weaker teams beat stronger teams why do you tank?? surly there is no need to tank if weak temas are beating token buyers as much as you say??
Just giving my opinion here.
Stronger teams do get beaten in real life by underdogs. It doesnt happen too often but it does. Look just a few weeks ago, Stoke City beat Chelsea 2-1 or something like that.
I honestly think that weaker team beating stronger team ratio should be tweaked down a little. Cause lots of players are coming down to
the forums every few days complaining about these unnessecary losses.
Too many "underdogs" winning here eh? Not realistic?
Here are just a few results from the EPL so far this season. How many of the so-called "better" teams have been trolled.
Cardiff 3-2 Man City, Liverpool 0-1 Southampton, Man Utd 1-2 West Brom, Aston Villa 3-2 Man City, Newcastle 2-0 Chelsea, Sunderland 1-0 Man City, Hull 3-1 Liverpool, Man Utd 0-1 Newcastle, Stoke 3-2 Chelsea.
So maybe our game is not so different after all.
The bookies get richer and richer from people putting the top four clubs to win in their accas.
How many times in a season do all the big four/five clubs win in the EPL? Bookies nightmare if it ever happens.
Their are no easy games in football, and for anyone to say the best team on paper will or should always win, has a lot to learn about the beautiful game.
Maybe a good day fo the defense + good day of ST's. More, it's suposed that some players are programmed to be effective in some situations, and this was the case.
Money is not = win, Mourinho is telling us that when we start the game.
I don't think that anyone says that the best team should ALWAYS win..... What everyone here is saying that the no of unrealistic losses should be decreased.
To Rayco, out of all the matches u listed, did any of the losing team have 70% possession????? Did anyone of them have 11 shots at goal and their opponent keeper had no saves??? Yes the weaker teams do and should lose. But not so many times as it happens in this game.
But are the losses that unrealistic?
As the EPL has been talked about in this thread, I'll continue this example.
Man Utd and Man City have the two most expensive squads in the EPL (around about 400m).
City played 16 - won 10 drawn 2 lost 4
Utd played 16 - won 7 drawn 4 lost 5
If City or Utd (400m) were a team in this game . they would be 6/7 star teams, whilst the likes of Hull and Cardiff (squads worth 30-40 million) would be 2/3 star teams. Yet the smaller teams still can win and win well in real life, so why not here in the game?
Losing to weaker teams is not unrealistic, it's annoying, but not unrealistic.
ridiculous to compare actual game with this game, in real game strong teams can lose for many reasons, but here i don't see any reason why a strong team should lose the weak. Everyone plays only for victory. the weak should win itself and not with the help of others. it will reflect negatively on the active players in the game will become more and more inactive players. here everyone plays for personal enjoyment. no fun no players. and should not be confused with real game virtual.
I get u but what I am trying to say is in real life, games r decided by many factors. Playing conditions and all and even sometimes the X factor a luck is involved. Now since it is a simulation, I feel that that X Factor has been overdone. Because if a stronger team loses when the weaker team had centered its formation, played correct ordered, made correct subs, etc it was believable. But there r strong teams losing to lol teams when they have countered formation and what not!!! That is impractical. And in the matches IRL, the weaker team wins when its players play their heart out, with every bit of their energy. But in the game, taking all that into account is impossible and it just can not be decided in which match a player will suddenly get a super energy boost and will start running up and down the whole pitch, chasing everyone who has the ball and then taking it and running all the way to score. If that can't happen, then all the NGE does is picks some random match with some random victim and activated the Troll Protocol LOLs
Well, what I just said. I hope u get what I am saying. I am feeling sleepy and so can't explain properly right now.
I played the weakest team in league today and scraped for a 2-1 win. Then 45 min later, I won against a stronger team in CL 4-1!!!! This proves how impractical this game is
Yes.. I agree!!!
As this is a game, the factor should be these:
1. How much of time the player/manager uses for his team
2. How much he prepared for that match
3. Differences of the players' conditions & morales
4. Formations & tactics, including in match tactical changes & subs
and so on....
Oh... Don't get me wrong!!! Of course, the stronger teams should WIN... but well-prepared weakers should win sometimes(sometimes).
And, the abandon teams should be dominated all the time & there should be no bot!!! I hate BOTTTTSSS!
" MAY NORDEUS CARES THE ACTIVE GAMERS "
People say it happens all the time, but be honest now. How often do you get trolled in a season. In a 26 game league most people only get trolled 3-5 times if even. I dont think thats too unreasonable.
Didn't Manchester United thrash Bayer Leverkusen 0-5? Probably one of the top 4 teams in Germany, behind only Borrusia Dortmund and Bayern Munich. Then draw with Spurs, lose to Everton 0-1 then get beat by Newcastle 0-1, then beat Shakhtar Donetsk.
Sure Everton are a solid top 6 team in England, as are Spurs ( Not on current form but o well ) But last seasons Champions league was an all german final, which would lead to believe that perhaps the better german clubs, are the best in the world. So if Man U can beat the 3rd best team in Germany, which based on evidence last season is home to the top 2 clubs in the world. Then surely they should beat Newcastle / Everton and Spurs.
Regardless of the manager change that occurred at Man U. The fact is upsets happen, one team just doesn't show up the other does. Arsenal get hammered by Villa. Then go on to top the BPL. Upsets happen, if you managed to go 26-0-0 or heck even any season unbeaten you should be proud. You can put yourselves in same royalty as the Arsenal Invincible's.
And about possession Crystal Palace 27% Everton 73% 9 shots vs 15 shots. While I support Everton, I firmly believe Palace deserved to win that game. Yet it was 0-0. Possession doesn't matter, its what you do with it that matters.
Just another thought. All those who are complaining about losing to weaker teams for whatever reason, have you NEVER beaten a stronger team, when on paper you shouldn't have? I'm waiting for someone to be truthful enough to come on here and complain that they've won a match that has trolled in their favour.
For the ManU point, it did happen. But once this season. For what happened to me, happens to everyone every 2nd day. I am not complaining about losing to weaker teams, her, but the way people lose and the number of times they lose is unbelievably impractical. And please since u answered this cvonvincingly, can u please answer that part of the question which I asked Rayco, did any team losing have 70% possession?????
And all the points people have this season to support the weaker teams winning is related to ManU. How many other teams are getting trolled??? And how many outside EPL????
I have done that too. Last season HAYD, I beat a CH. league opponent 1-0 who was 5Q better than me. I did lose the 2nd leg though. I had actually countered his formation so even that result was a bit cvonvinving. But there are teams that play something like 3N-1-4-2 with no wingbacks and I place ML/MR and AML/AMR and go down the flanks, and still don't score!!!! Is that not impractical???? And as I have said a million times before, I have no problems if weak teams win, but they need to do something for it. Play correct tactics and formations and winning is fine. But weak teams win with their formation countered!!! And this is what gets on my nerves!!!
I will give you a couple examples of these daft troll results.
Last season the team bottom of my league won just 3 games, all against the top 3 and with his GK playing as ST and his LB playing in goal, is that just like in real life?
The season before that I lost 4 games in the league. Twice against the bottom of the table who had 2 GK playing outfield, 1 at AML and the other at RB.
These are the kind of results which are just ridiculous. Its not just about losing to much weaker teams, its about losing to teams who have crap formations which are easily countered. There was a guy , ,itayfrancko, who on another thread played some outrageous formations which should have seen his team get hammered but he won.
Whatever way you want to look at it the match engine has not been programmed properly and needs looked at.
To be honest just because Bayern and Dortmund made the champions league final doesn't mean the rest of german football teams are the best in the world. It's like take Barcelona and Real Madrid out of spanish football and what do you left? Even take Rangers and Celtic out of Scottish football and Scottish football would be like the welsh or irish leagues.
Thats what makes the EPL and to a lesser extent serie A such competitive leagues, no club has totally out grown the league.
Bayern, Dortmund, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Rangers and Celtic have all carried the league they are in and if they left their leagues would be a shadow of what they are.
people really need to stop complaining about these things. it happens to everyone. you get trolled bybteams, then you troll stronger teams, but nobody comes on and says omg I beat a stronger team this game sucks. also, I dont know if you guys realized, but goalkeepers have other skills other than handling. so putting a goalkeeper at DL or something would be the same as having an MC at ML. they won't play as well (usually) but they can still get the job done. even players in a keeper position still have keeper skills. so really the only thing trolling you guys is when those teams have 20% possession and still beat you. but honestly, stop whining and get on with your lives. this isn't gonna get fixed anytime soon so why complain about it?
you aren't to bright are you? I'm saying that in this game a goalkeeper would have about the same defensive skills as a defender, just like an mc would an ml. goalkeepers are only trained in defense, defenders are mostly trained in defense. where did I even mention real life? give your head a shake.