Quote Originally Posted by Spyros View Post
Some facts for everyone's consideration:

We play a soccer manager game. Every company that produces such a game, makes sure results are NOT predetermined before a match starts, otherwise game is lame and not worth playing.
We cant get clear answers about strange results, because every manager game(not only top11) we play is complex.

However some of us have provided the fact that you can start a game with illegal formation, then switch to legal and win. Or vise versa if you prefer. Start with legal and score a couple goals, then switch to illegal and lose. Yet a few denying this fact. Fact that beats the silly predetermined results theory and make us wonder why it even have been brought up.



I have underlined and made bold the reason why all this turmoil is produced. Rage and disappointment make good friends with slander.
Thanks for all the fortune cookie sayings...they make a lot of sense on a board full of rage and disappointment. LOL

We play a "supposed" football manager game, with less management and incredibly, less football and more simulation. IT is NOT complex like you say. far from it. but that is your opinion and you are welcome to it: you are allowed to be wrong.

what happens most of the time during testing is that an illegal formation is started with and turned to a legal formation and the team loses. it is also frequent that a team starts with a legal formation and changes to an illegal formation immediately and wins.

we all know that illegal formations win more frequently than should happen, but what you mention is when you start with legal formation and then change to illegal, you lose and thats PROOF? Assume that games are predetermined and if you didnt change to an illegal formation and you still lose, which happens most of the time, as most people dont change their team to an illegal formation and lose the game.

see, I dont think you are using god's gift at all. There are so many results of people who test this that show that you are wrong and you refuse to believe them. These tests are done by experienced players trying to prove or disprove the theory. Without more knowledge of the game and how it works, its an uphill battle and the results will never be able to be 100% confirmed, but at least there will be some results that will allow one to be convinced one way or the other. facts shown up to this point lean towards predetermination. end of. There is no denying that.

here are some quotes that might help you:

"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."

“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”

“Living is Easy with Eyes Closed.”

“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.”

“People are stupid. They will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true.”

“The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see.”

“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

So there you go, choose which ones appeal to you. I put them all here rather than waste posts by putting one in each future post rebutting your future posts.

this is not meant to insult you, but I hope that you can open your eyes to the possibility that what we say might be true.