Page 13 of 25 FirstFirst ... 3111213141523 ... LastLast
Results 121 to 130 of 246
Like Tree15Likes

Thread: Power training

  1. #121
    Famous Accyrover's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    1,553
    Quote Originally Posted by FCP View Post
    Gotta guess a bit. He is my fastest trainer. So I think it's in the range of 140 - 150.
    I think this an area most tend to neglect when PT, most just check the gains and fail to notice the condition loss, check this and you can get a pretty good idea how many R/P you will need for the next session.
    When i was doing PT on Kissi I applied them at circa 70% two at a time to maintain maximum gains to condition loss per pack, let them drop into the yellow, you either waste part of a R/P, if say the third takes him to over 99% or the second only tops him up to 85-90%.

    So rather than just filling any vacant training mode I selected the best gain available while staying above the 70% bench mark for condition that I set.
    Last edited by Accyrover; 02-22-2013 at 02:20 PM.
    Level 1,2,3,4,5,6 League winners

    Level 1,2,3,5 CL Winners

    Level 4 CL runner up.

    Level 2,3,4 Cup winners

    P267 W244 D2 L11 GF1024 GA91

  2. #122
    Famous Accyrover's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    1,553
    Quote Originally Posted by Accyrover View Post
    Would you care to explain how you've come to this conclusion that is being stated as fact.

    Your saying that the player of mine sat with enough skill points to take him beyond the next star, will slow down tomorrow after maintenance.
    We'll see! tomorrow then. My money is on he doesn't.

    Updated tonight.


    I now intend to add the SP to Pardue.

    Here is the update at the close of play today, from this my opinion is that the engine does not slow down a players gains when within one SP on a star. three other players in the same position are showing no difference in gains, they are 3*39/4*44/5*49 and Pardue 6*54.

    After another MOM award.

    Level 1,2,3,4,5,6 League winners

    Level 1,2,3,5 CL Winners

    Level 4 CL runner up.

    Level 2,3,4 Cup winners

    P267 W244 D2 L11 GF1024 GA91

  3. #123
    Famous Accyrover's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    1,553
    Stuff it, decided to assign all SP, the was 3*39 is being sold later as there is a scout I want.
    Level 1,2,3,4,5,6 League winners

    Level 1,2,3,5 CL Winners

    Level 4 CL runner up.

    Level 2,3,4 Cup winners

    P267 W244 D2 L11 GF1024 GA91

  4. #124
    Rookie
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    57
    hi guys, im a level 2 manager and have decided to invest this season in some 18yos who i can hopefully train on and have them as useful players for at least a few levels to come.

    I bought 6 guys, all valued at purchase between 1.5M and 1.75M, all 19 quality (3, almost 4* to me), all 18yos.

    I've found they are training quite well and so i'm attempting to power train all 6 simultaneously to speed things along a little. They're all in my first team and usually play twice a day most days.

    Is all of that and throwing some green packs at them for PT gonna be enough to get them to be 4* players for me at level 4 or 5 though or do people think that really i'm wasting my time hoping that these guys can be the core of my team for another 4 or 5 levels? Will they continue to improve at a similar rate as 19, 20, 21yos?

    To give an example of the development speed, one of the 1.7M ones was signed the evening of day 1 this season and he had 299 skill points, just one short of becoming a 4* player for me. With very little power training involved, he's now got 352 before we consider day 14's gains, so 12 days, 53 points. Thats obviously encouraging, but will these guys be able to continue anything like that as they improve and age so that i could still be using them as 4* players in level 4-5 or do they simply not have it in them without lots and lots of PT?

    Sorry for the long post, any advice welcome

  5. #125
    Famous shwanko07's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    London
    Posts
    1,208
    why people power train?
    i power trained 3-4 players , choosing to do it on medium option (not hard) though? yes it take double of time, but less injuries overall, same tiredness if not less as i noticed they get more than double tired when you choose hard option?
    so what is the advantage aside from the time issue?
    my team @ http://forum.topeleven.com/team-show...ears-fc-2.html
    League : winner (S1, S2, S3, S6, S7) , runner up (S4*, S5*) * was in holiday away
    CL: Winner (S4, S7), runner up (S2, S3, S5, S6)
    Cup: Winner (S3)

  6. #126
    Famous iamdjw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    England
    Posts
    1,196
    Should I appoint my SP now or wait???

    Power training-training-2.jpg

  7. #127
    VIP dv8r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    England
    Posts
    5,402
    Quote Originally Posted by iamdjw View Post
    Should I appoint my SP now or wait???

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Training 2.jpg 
Views:	74 
Size:	48.1 KB 
ID:	2518
    I'd like you to try something out for me.

    Pick one of your players who is very close to the next star or has enough SP to reach the next star and train him on all 3 training exercises. Record the skill gain values and then assign the SP to that player. After an hour, do the same and record the values again.

    If there is no difference then assign all SP. If there is a difference, in that he was a faster trainer before gaining a star, then do not assign SP until you are finished.

    This will prove that training speed is affected by unassigned SP


    Season 15 - Level 15

    League Winners (14) - Levels 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14
    26-0-0 league (4) - Levels 3, 4, 7 & 8
    Undefeated in league (11) - Levels 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 12, 13, 14
    Cup winners (2) - Level 1 & 14
    Cup 3rd place (1) - Level 12
    Champions League Winners (10) - Levels 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14
    Champions League Runners up(1) - Level 9






    >My team<

  8. #128
    Famous iamdjw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    England
    Posts
    1,196
    Quote Originally Posted by dv8r View Post
    I'd like you to try something out for me.

    Pick one of your players who is very close to the next star or has enough SP to reach the next star and train him on all 3 training exercises. Record the skill gain values and then assign the SP to that player. After an hour, do the same and record the values again.

    If there is no difference then assign all SP. If there is a difference, in that he was a faster trainer before gaining a star, then do not assign SP until you are finished.

    This will prove that training speed is affected by unassigned SP
    Ok dv8r I have done it with Patrice Evra, has 30 sp already and trained in all 3 stretching gave a gain of +11, Cardio +28 and Practice Match +35.

    In an hour I will assign the 13 points he needs and see what happens then when I do the same.

    Hope this will work as he currently has the points needed already. if not I am currently after an ML/AML on the transfer list who is currently 9SP short of going up a star level and will test it with him aswell

  9. #129
    Famous iamdjw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    England
    Posts
    1,196
    Quote Originally Posted by iamdjw View Post
    Ok dv8r I have done it with Patrice Evra, has 30 sp already and trained in all 3 stretching gave a gain of +11, Cardio +28 and Practice Match +35.

    In an hour I will assign the 13 points he needs and see what happens then when I do the same.

    Hope this will work as he currently has the points needed already. if not I am currently after an ML/AML on the transfer list who is currently 9SP short of going up a star level and will test it with him aswell
    Ok dv8r here we go. I added the 13SP Evra needed to go up to a 6* scout. Then I have just redone all 3 training sessions and here are the results for you. This time they were Stretching +17, Cardio +34, Practice Match +32.

    I hope this helps with what you wanted to test.

  10. #130
    VIP dv8r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    England
    Posts
    5,402
    Quote Originally Posted by iamdjw View Post
    Ok dv8r here we go. I added the 13SP Evra needed to go up to a 6* scout. Then I have just redone all 3 training sessions and here are the results for you. This time they were Stretching +17, Cardio +34, Practice Match +32.

    I hope this helps with what you wanted to test.
    Yeah thanks, that's about the same, looks like the unassigned SP is recognised by the game and training speed is already lowered regardless if the SP are assigned or not.


    Season 15 - Level 15

    League Winners (14) - Levels 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14
    26-0-0 league (4) - Levels 3, 4, 7 & 8
    Undefeated in league (11) - Levels 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 12, 13, 14
    Cup winners (2) - Level 1 & 14
    Cup 3rd place (1) - Level 12
    Champions League Winners (10) - Levels 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14
    Champions League Runners up(1) - Level 9






    >My team<

Page 13 of 25 FirstFirst ... 3111213141523 ... LastLast