Quote Originally Posted by shwanko07 View Post
I think he need to try that over 5-10 times
i noticed the gain can be variable at times .. sure he will need more than one sample
I have tried this a few times but didn't really understand it at the time with my players and with all the experimentation dv8r will have done himself along with my experience has helped him learn that it does affect it so yes I believe we can just apply our SP now.