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    Youth Academy Player and Training Speed Nerf Exposed...:D...

    Here is Buffs Mad 15T Youth Academy Player Stats......

    Stretching Cardio Match Practice
    56 78 156
    47 77 127
    43 109 163
    42 79 159
    48 114 108
    47 102 157
    46 88 122
    54 73 165
    41 113 111
    58 119 134
    54 104 171
    41 80 128
    51 118 159
    39 74 122
    47 118 121
    46.93 96.40 140.20

    Here is mine 24T Youth Academy Player stat......

    Stretching Cardio Match Practice
    54 80 158
    54 98 174
    44 116 135
    50 97 126
    50 102 161
    41 90 173
    37 108 123
    40 93 108
    46 100 140
    50 110 122
    44 90 167
    48 85 125
    35 94 145
    40 75 119
    37 108 120
    48 78 155
    39 71 107
    56 102 151
    37 106 123
    45 91
    43 99
    40 105
    43
    58
    44.54 95.04 138.36

    Training Speed Now as 5 Star Player without assigning skill points......

    Stretching Cardio Match Practice
    32 82 118
    28 76 134
    28 74 96
    37 76 111
    45 72 135
    33
    33.8 76.00 118.80

    Training Speed as a 5 Star Player after after assigning the skill points to Physical and Mental there by increasing it by 10......

    Stretching Cardio Match Practice
    29 69 98
    42 81 118
    33 82 113
    43 92 87
    34 64 133
    44 62 104
    29 56 116
    28 64 92
    47 87 115
    42 78
    37.10 73.50 108.44

    The following points can be deducted from the above stats...

    1) The TRAINING SPEED of Token Youth Academy Player has no connection to their Tokens...Training Speed is same whether the player is of 15 or 24 Tokens...The Tokens only determines how much skill point the player is near to 5 star...


    2) If we calculate the starting Training Speed of both the players at initial stage it can be found that they are very high...But as we train them the speed drops considerably which means that if we start to Power Train a player the game spots it and slows down the player Training Speed...


    3) The market value of the Token Youth Academy player is equal to the fastest NORDEUS GENERATED player...


    4) The stats also shows that the Training Speed will drop even if you do not allocate the skill points...


    5) Increasing the Physical and Mental does not results in increase Training Speed...


    6) The average Training Speed for 5 star player shows that Training Speed has been nerfed considerably...


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    Last edited by Siddharth Shanker Singh; 08-11-2014 at 03:20 AM.
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    Very good!

    I can confirm all points.

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    Great post!! Thx a lot Sid & Buffs Mad for all your work
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    It's every star... not just the 5th. If you train up a 3 star guy, he'll slow when he gets 4th or enough points in hand to be there.
    Expressed above is my own opinion. Your results may vary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat Harrison View Post
    It's every star... not just the 5th. If you train up a 3 star guy, he'll slow when he gets 4th or enough points in hand to be there.
    I meant that a 5 star fast trainer training speed was much more than what the data is suggesting...

    So the Training speed has been NERFED...

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    Hmmm, why didn't you say you were going to do this and I could've posted the 5* results for my Academy guy.

    Edit: I'll post in some data once I've dbl checked it /Edit

    I have some data on 6* but not enough.

    I've also got data on Nordgens at 5 & 6*.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffs Mad View Post
    Hmmm, why didn't you say you were going to do this and I could've posted the 5* results for my Academy guy.

    Edit: I'll post in some data once I've dbl checked it /Edit

    I have some data on 6* but not enough.

    I've also got data on Nordgens at 5 & 6*.
    Sorry......But I did said that I will post my data when the sample size is big enough......

    We can make a single thread for all this data...Then the comparison will be better...

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    Here's my 5* Academy training results from 5* all the way to 6. All points were assigned after each 3 type session.

    Not had time to analyse them properly yet - looks like the * causes a 20-25% drop in gain.

    Stretching Cardio Match
    33 86 100
    30 85 139
    38 94 118
    33 69 86
    42 63 103
    39 68 107
    39 72 134
    34 62 92
    38 68 121
    28 80 103
    31 83 142
    36 70 135
    31 75 117
    45 77 121
    44 79 125
    30 71 92
    32 85 134
    44 68 141
    33 75 108
    34 64 96
    41 56 139
    47 95 109
    802 1645 2562
    36.45 74.77 116.45

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    I have another 18 yo player who was high value (NordGen type value) but was definately not a NordGen. I was prepared to assume he was another teams Academy player 1 level above me (or same level trained up to next star). I therefore repost the data on him as a 5*.

    The results seem broadly similar to the other Academy players - but I can't do anything more on Gain drop per * until I have more 6* data.

    Btw, although I'm sure you all can tell, the values at the end are the total points gained followed by the averages.

    Stretching Cardio Match
    41 75 130
    47 70 138
    40 86 117
    44 67 87
    39 67 134
    29 75 104
    45 83 93
    45 68 103
    47 69 110
    43 90 116
    38 74 109
    41 80 92
    44 66 131
    39 64 116
    42 64 89
    33 75 132
    44 77 100
    37 88 142
    41 81 137
    779 1419 2180
    41 74.68 114.74

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    I would broadly endorse Sid's findings except for the last one.


    • The next star drop in gain I'm seeing was what I expected from reading other posts. No idea if there has been an overall nerf to speed because I have no access to historic data.


    What surprised me was the wide range of values that were achieved for the same player doing the same type of training from one session to another - that highlights the need for a decent sample size.

    Its risky to say this because the sample sizes are small but I've been recording the start and end condition for each training session (and each type) and so far I'm not seeing any influence of Condition Level on Gain. (But take that with a pinch of salt atm)

    PS. At some point I'll take a further look at Gain per 1 point of condition and see if anything jumps out.

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