Why didn't my Team go though to the next round?

[Midnite]

Champions League Group Phase. I ended up Joint second with another Team. Both teams won 2, drawn 2 and lost 2. the two games against each other were drawn. My Team ended up with plus 3 goals, the other team with minus 1.
Although this would mean that my team should have qualified as Second placed for the next round, the other Team became Second, my team third. Can somebody explain this???

[SuperDunk]

Champions League Group Phase. I ended up Joint second with another Team. Both teams won 2, drawn 2 and lost 2. the two games against each other were drawn. My Team ended up with plus 3 goals, the other team with minus 1.
Although this would mean that my team should have qualified as Second placed for the next round, the other Team became Second, my team third. Can somebody explain this???

You loosed against Boca Juniors???

[Midnite]

No, played 2:2 and 1:1. Thats my point. I should be second

[Panzani]

No, played 2:2 and 1:1. Thats my point. I should be second

2-2 at home? Then boca juniors qualified on away goals.

Champions League rankings - Top Eleven be a Football Manager

[Midnite]

Ok, that would explain it, but why are the rules different than in the Real World?

[Panzani]

Ok, that would explain it, but why are the rules different than in the Real World?

They aren't different, those are the real champions league rules

[Midnite]

They aren't different, those are the real champions league rules

Thats not correct. First points, then goal difference, then the Team that scored more goals and if that is all the same, then the direct Games against each other. In the real world my Team would have been second.

[Panzani]

Thats not correct. First points, then goal difference, then the Team that scored more goals and if that is all the same, then the direct Games against each other. In the real world my Team would have been second.

You are wrong

[PricopGeorgeCătălin]

The rules are just fine and same like in real world. In UCL goals against last placed are not counted.

[Celtic]

The rules are just fine and same like in real world. In UCL goals against last placed are not counted.

National team competitions:
You are confusing the UCL system with UEFA qualifications for the Euro Championships and World Cup, and that will be for playoff berths only. Games against last are only discarded to find out what are the better placed among ALL 2nd placed teams (3rd placed for future Euros) in order to access playoff.

The reason:
Not every group has the same amount of teams.


In the UEFA Champions League and most competitions:
All goals and matches matter all the time and if 2 or 3 teams are tied in the same place (whatever place is), games between them will be analysed in particular. Which is unfair because you might have lost 0-1 against 1st place and won against 4th by 7-0, while overall your friend could have lost 0-7 to the first and won 1-0 against the last, which shows he's much worst than you.

Why it works:
It often favours the worst team, but helps preventing 3rd party teams from fixing matches. You could be tied in point while teams with unknown interests in your dispute could let you score any amount of goals you needed. That's what happened in 1982 between Germany and Austria. Germany only scored the necessary 1-0.