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    Question Not a fast trainer?

    Hey guys,it is the first time I sign an academy player for tokens.I just had 36 tokens so I give it a go.As far as I know,he is confirmed to be a fast trainer. But his training gain is very poor,something like 25-55-75. Far away from 40-80-120,the normal values of a fast trainer .Why isn t he developing properly?
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    He will maybe peak next season or something, I had some 18 year old playres with poor gains, and they peaked next season (this one ), So I would reccomend you let him stay for 1/2 seasons if nothing happens, sell him
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    But his training gain is very poor,something like 25-55-75
    in two bars or three bars ?
    In 3 bars he must gain avg at least +100 in practice.
    How many times did you train him ? because training results have sometimes big difference, from +80 to +130 , for the same player. There is no explanation for that, it's just a roll dice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    in two bars or three bars ?
    In 3 bars he must gain avg at least +100 in practice.
    How many times did you train him ? because training results have sometimes big difference, from +80 to +130 , for the same player. There is no explanation for that, it's just a roll dice.
    Obviously the training intensity was 3 bars. I will post some screenshoots:
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    Ok, a bit higher than the last time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    in two bars or three bars ?
    In 3 bars he must gain avg at least +100 in practice.
    How many times did you train him ? because training results have sometimes big difference, from +80 to +130 , for the same player. There is no explanation for that, it's just a roll dice.
    i signed a 24 token youth and he was worse than stats posted so will NEVER sign youth again that cost tokens the same as i will NEVER sign DEAD DONKEY`s SCOUTS again, once bitten twice shy as they say
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    How many T you gave ? 12 ?
    Well, at least in cardio had good gaining. Maybe try this one training and if he is good to that, maybe he can gather some extra sp.
    But yes, the practice is bad - if you consider that he is more a 3* player (65q) than 4*.
    Unfortunately the gaining is not increase by the time - only in next lv when the player looses a star.
    So, you can have him as back-up GK, give him any sp he can gain, training him often in two bars but not giving him extra boosters and sell him.

    i signed a 24 token youth and he was worse than stats posted
    My faster trainer so far was an academy player 21T but youths are a bit of random.
    While an expensive nordgen has a standard pattern in training and I never had a failure, academy players don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crister View Post
    Hey guys,it is the first time I sign an academy player for tokens.I just had 36 tokens so I give it a go.As far as I know,he is confirmed to be a fast trainer. But his training gain is very poor,something like 25-55-75. Far away from 40-80-120,the normal values of a fast trainer .Why isn t he developing properly?
    Here he is:
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    Hi, normaly the 24-token players are very good. Sometimes they are not as good as they should be. So it´s unlucky for you. I had this problem, too. You will never know this before. But you have the same risk on the transfer-market. Keep going on (Y)

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    Had this with an Academy player last season - no idea if its related but he trained very well until he started getting hit by the wage increase bug.

    His gains were like yours, his value didn't increase as much as expected each Q. Now he's training well again this Season but he's going up for sale as soon as I get a replacement.

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    It's not exactly random, there is a hidden factor that decides how many condition is lost during activities.

    When a player is in bad shape (or in my words, "poor motivation") he will lose less condition and often result in poor performance in matchs.
    In general, good performing players lose condition faster. If you take note on the condition loss during training you can even figure out if a player is in bad shape as he will lose condition much slower compared to his peers.

    If you are desperate to use this player, spend 2~3 green packs per day and he will get back to shape rather quickly.

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    Is it safe to assume that a fast trainer is someone that on 5* will get you at least 30-60-90 on hard training?
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