youth academy doesn't suck

[scrim]

hmm ok that makes some sense. But why isn't there still serious competition from other people at or around your level for these players? Going on a tangent to the youth academy thing...

Since only half the teams ever get promoted it must get to the stage when entire leagues are full of good, highly active players.

In a theoretical server of 10000 players, 5000 get promoted to level 2 in season 1, 2500 to level 3 in season 2, 1250 in season 3 etc... The number of teams at the highest level has to be halved every season, so there must be a point where even good players don't get promoted. Then as new players coming in later get promoted and join them, there should be many more teams with active players in lower tiers than in the top tiers. Or have I missed something?


And did I get lucky with a youth player worth more per token than a bank investment? Because if not and that is the norm, then signing the token player makes financial sense even if it is just to sell him off straight away. It doesn't matter what you're spending in tokens in an auction... you will run out of money to spend on new players without bank investments or player sales after buying 3 or 4 top players in a season, right? I have been limited in the transfer market this season not by a lack of tokens, but with a lack of transfer funds after splashing out on 3 top players despite only failing to make semis of CL/Cup a couple of times in my 4 1/2 seasons.

[Ljepoje]

"one man's meat is another man's poison" ....

[QuocBao]

I'm level 3. Waited for 28 days then sold o young player for 44k

[Joshiko]

it's true that it depends on the server. if you're playing in my server and you're confident to sign 5 star youngsters with 1-3 tokens every time, then you must be joking. or crazy. what really changes my opinion is that almost all posters never really sign youth players. most of them only complaining about why they should pay tokens for their youth players. i'd rather do experiment to find out and go with some people here in this forum who said that they ACTUALLY BUY this tokens youngster and satisfied with their performance in match and training.

and i've already compared the value of the youngsters with the same age and quality in my auction market with the generated youngster in my squad and the value is very close to the expensive ones. you can compare also the tokens cost with the value and make ratio and you can find out that the ratio is close to the investment ratio.

besides, i have heard at least three people here in this forum who ACTUALLY BUY the player and they all satisfy with the performance. that's 100% statistics. i've made investment a couple of times to get money. so instead of making investment to get money, i'd rather sign the youngster from my academy and take chances to make real investment in him. if his position is exactly what i'm looking for, then this is not a waste chance at all for me.

but of course if you live in a happily ever after market where you can sign good quality player with just 1-3 tokens, just forget it..

[scrim]

it's true that it depends on the server. if you're playing in my server and you're confident to sign 5 star youngsters with 1-3 tokens every time, then you must be joking. or crazy. what really changes my opinion is that almost all posters never really sign youth players. most of them only complaining about why they should pay tokens for their youth players. i'd rather do experiment to find out and go with some people here in this forum who said that they ACTUALLY BUY this tokens youngster and satisfied with their performance in match and training.

and i've already compared the value of the youngsters with the same age and quality in my auction market with the generated youngster in my squad and the value is very close to the expensive ones. you can compare also the tokens cost with the value and make ratio and you can find out that the ratio is close to the investment ratio.

besides, i have heard at least three people here in this forum who ACTUALLY BUY the player and they all satisfy with the performance. that's 100% statistics. i've made investment a couple of times to get money. so instead of making investment to get money, i'd rather sign the youngster from my academy and take chances to make real investment in him. if his position is exactly what i'm looking for, then this is not a waste chance at all for me.

but of course if you live in a happily ever after market where you can sign good quality player with just 1-3 tokens, just forget it..

I'm not sure that there is much statistical power in your statistical analysis of 3 examples :P but I agree wholeheartedly

[Joshiko]

I'm not sure that there is much statistical power in your statistical analysis of 3 examples :P but I agree wholeheartedly

sure. but that's all i've got so far lol

most people immediately leave the idea of signing youngster from academy before posting here and giving us additional data

[scrim]

A comparison of investment to return on facility upgrades... I can't remember the actual costs, but let's work with rough figures. I stand to be corrected if I am wildly off

Stadium, utilities & parking:
To upgrade my stadium, car park to level 4 and utilities to level 3 has cost approx $2.5m (capacity 13,000) and taken 76 days of construction
Selling it out at $9 for a league ticket and $10 for a CL/Cup ticket (in truth you'd need $8 & $9 to guarantee sellouts, but I'll be generous)
return in season 5: $1.3m in ticket sales + 150k in merchandise.

Youth facility:
To upgrade to level 4 has cost a bit over $100k and 9 (or 12?) days of construction
free return in season 5: it turns out there was a small bidding war on the free player I got today, he went for $926k Also, it takes less than a season to produce a player, so every 4 or 5 seasons you will actually get two free players. Nothing to complain about here!

Obviously you have to upgrade everything, and the stadium will eventually start to pay for itself... but for the quickest and biggest return on investment, the youth facilities are the way to go, build it first!

[Saransh Vatsa]

A comparison of investment to return on facility upgrades... I can't remember the actual costs, but let's work with rough figures. I stand to be corrected if I am wildly off

Stadium, utilities & parking:
To upgrade my stadium, car park to level 4 and utilities to level 3 has cost approx $2.5m (capacity 13,000) and taken 76 days of construction
Selling it out at $9 for a league ticket and $10 for a CL/Cup ticket (in truth you'd need $8 & $9 to guarantee sellouts, but I'll be generous)
return in season 5: $1.3m in ticket sales + 150k in merchandise.

Youth facility:
To upgrade to level 4 has cost a bit over $100k and 9 (or 12?) days of construction
free return in season 5: it turns out there was a small bidding war on the free player I got today, he went for $926k Also, it takes less than a season to produce a player, so every 4 or 5 seasons you will actually get two free players. Nothing to complain about here!

Obviously you have to upgrade everything, and the stadium will eventually start to pay for itself... but for the quickest and biggest return on investment, the youth facilities are the way to go, build it first!

That's a point in favour of youth academy and is very convincing. Infact I, a hardcore critic of youth academy, agree with you. never thought of that tbh. Well said!!!

[dv8r]

I just got my U21 players today. 24 tokens for a 4*30 player, AMC... get out.

The other one is a 2*21 DC player, not even worth 1M.

[MiaSanMia]

How do I find out if I'm on the highest level on my server???
I'm afraid I am tho.
The whole season I've only seen 5* players once.
And I check the tm everyday!
I would be fine with that if my scout list would've been good!
But far from it! There's only been one 22 yo the whole season and even that one sucked ending 7.
But what I don't understand is I have friends on the same level same server even in the same competition and they get really good scouts this whole season!
How is that fair??