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    After this result today, (very ) early in the morning, I'm preparing for the semi finals of CH.L.
    4-5-1V, def/counter/flanks worked great against the three DC of my oppo, my wingers made a party and my ST great job.

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    still cannot understand those rates for GKs
    oppo GK conceded 5 goals, made 2 saves and got an 8

    In the cup game yesterday oppo GK conceded 2 goals, made 8 saves and got a 7
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    * I didn't watch the game so I don't know anything about the comments
    * I still don't get used that idea of rates. Every time I see those things, I remember when I sold my GK some seasons ago.
    He got 5-6 rates of 5 in a row matches while he conceded only 1-2 goals
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    <snip> still cannot understand those rates for GKs
    oppo GK conceded 5 goals, made 2 saves and got an 8

    In the cup game yesterday oppo GK conceded 2 goals, made 8 saves and got a 7


    * I didn't watch the game so I don't know anything about the comments
    * I still don't get used that idea of rates. Every time I see those things, I remember when I sold my GK some seasons ago.
    He got 5-6 rates of 5 in a row matches while he conceded only 1-2 goals
    Goals and saves don't define a GK performance - they might play a part, either small or big. GK performance also comes from other activities such as catches, smothers, etc

    A goal occurs. You can't assume liability for the GK. There is opportunity and expectation - could he have saved it, should he have saved it? Dependng on the answer there will be varying degrees of responsibility or blame on GK's part.

    So, a Save prevents a goal? Yes. So it must be a good thing? Err no - it might be or it might not. A GK who stretches every sinew to tip a shot on target over the bar for a CK is a good thing; a gk who doesn't make an easy catch of a shot on target and knocks it out for a CK might be a bad thing (particularly if they score from the CK)but if he holds on to it might be good or neutral.

    So comments can define if its good or bad? Mibees aye mibees naw. (Translation: Yes and No.) >.< Commentary can sometimes help understand some of the events but they represent a very small part of a game. Some comments must be included eg goals. That doesn't mean they representative of the individuals performance.

    It all requires interpretation of something which is incomplete - neither goals, stats, ratings or comments completely describe a game.

    Its no surprise that we find ratings for Strikers easier to accept because a big part of their ratings is black n white - goal or no goal, assist or not - the times we might doubt them is when there are other 'quality' issues, like opportunity and expectation. A Goal by a Striker will never be bad unlike a GK save.

    My, that's a helluva long way of saying who knows - just accept the ratings, stats, comments etc as your best chance of managing; keeping a large supply of Toll-Away by your side ofc.
    Last edited by Buffs Mad; 04-24-2015 at 11:37 AM. Reason: oops copy n paste error in para 2 ;)