Scout players : a shame !

[tomy31]

I have a problem in my team, it s striker who has always note like 6 6 6 etc...
So i buy 2 scouts players, 59 tokens each ! And one has always 6! And the other have note 6-4-5-3 !!!! Never see that! And for 59 tokens !!!! A shame!!!! Nordeus must take off player and give my 59 tokens !
Who can help me ????

[nikolgiorgos]

No one can help you. Sell them - they are crap.
If you have read this thread
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...-scouts-5.html
I 'm saying there, that now with the new update in the scout list, many players/scout have a serious problem.
If you have bought an attacker with better defending skills it's a fail.
I sold mine and bought another from mobile, with the old version of the game - and he worked fine.

[tomy31]

But how can i buy player on the old version of the game ?? No impact for the game ?
Anf after you put on the new version ?
Explain me
So i lose 100 tokens if i understand... (((

[tomy31]

And on the other topic you said that you buy ex-scouts players, 5stars veterans from higher level managers.....but how can you know that the player is an ex-scout player ?!?

[Gabez Teh]

bought 3 scouts and they are doin' good...

edit: last season also boght one waller defender and he is still rox
what formation and tactics do you have? does it matter anyway? (i think does)

[tomy31]

bought 3 scouts and they are doin' good...

edit: last season also boght one waller defender and he is still rox
what formation and tactics do you have? does it matter anyway? (i think does)

i play in 4-3-3
now 5-3-2

but today i have 2 match, 1 scout player have 8 (1hoal and 1 assist) and not see the match!
and i see match after and note 7...
when i see match, impression my team is less good, it's normal ??

[dudapples]

Hi Tomy, i have had the same problems for a good few seasons now.. this is my take on it...

The main thing here seems to be form... if you have just 1 bad form player in your team it can bring the rest of the team down and others under perform too, leading to defeats and poor ratings!! (some players seem to be affected more by the presence of a bad form player)

Took me a long time to figure out what was happening and i wasted many tokens on bad form scout players.. i always used to change formations for most games and kept a versatile squad and would watch every game... because of these problems i have had... i now play 4-3-3 ALL the time, and never watch my games as i too was getting penalized for watching... the main thing now is that i introduce new players to my squad one at a time so that i can keep a close look out for bad form players and i know immediately who is the problem in my team!!

According to my observations it is only the MC position which causes the trouble... all of my bad form players i have had to bin have been MC's... at times i have thought strikers too however the bad form strikers start performing when u eliminate the bad MC from the team... it is often the player getting a 5 rating who is the problem and the def or str with the 4 rating are actually just being affected by his presence.

Unfortunately Nordeus really don't care about our suffering and any tokens spent on a bad form player are WASTED!!! If we bought anything from anywhere else in the world for our £5-7 and it didn't work, we would get a replacement or refund... Not here!!

These are just my observations from my own problems but if anyone else can give more info on this issue i would love to hear it!

[nikolgiorgos]

I believe that it's not a coincidence the bad performing of so many scouts lately, that's why I made this post in bugs and technical issues section.
http://forum.topeleven.com/bugs-tech...t-players.html

So i lose 100 tokens if i understand...

I 'm afraid so. I 've read (and have the experience) when a good player is in bad form but recovers, but there are very few post about how a player who is starting with 4-5-6-4-5 can improve - as I can remember, it was talking that maybe can perform good in a next season
Well, when you buy a scout, you pay so much token waiting a player to perform better than the others for this season, not after 2 seasons.

[nikolgiorgos]

And on the other topic you said that you buy ex-scouts players, 5stars veterans from higher level managers.....but how can you know that the player is an ex-scout player ?!?

First sign of course it's the special ability.
Then there are some hints.
Special ability usually have the scouts and the fast trainers, when a manager decides to give them one.
But fast trainers (most of them) have different numbers in VALUE/WAGE.
This is a part of my guide about fast trainers.

lev 1: max q24 2,5-3,3 M WAGE 15-20K-------->Factor 3000/15=200.......400K-1,3M_____25-40K
lev 2: max q29 3,5-4 M WAGE 30-50K------->Factor 4000/30=133...........800-2M ______60-80K
lev3: max q34 5,5-6 M WAGE 80-100K-------->Factor 6000/80=75..........3M_________140K
lev4: max q39 7.5-8 M WAGE 140-160K------->Factor 8000/140=57........3M-5M____160-240K
lv 5 max q44 max 10-11M WAGE 220-260K------->Factor 11000/220=51..........6,5 M _____280-400K
lv6 - max q49 max 12-15M WAGE 330-370K-------->Factor 15000/330=45..........5-9M_____450-560K
lv7 - max q 54 max 17-19M WAGE 500-540K-------->Factor 19000/540=35.........11-12M_____700
lv 8 - max q 59 - max 24-25m WAGE 700-820K------>Factor 24000/700=32........14-18M______1M
lv 9 - max q 64 - max 31-32m WAGE 1 M-------->Factor 30M/1M =30................. 22M_______ 1,7M
lv 10 - max q69 - max 38-39m WAGE 1,4 M-------->Factor 39M/1,4M=28 .............25M________2M
lv 11 - max q74 - max 48-50m WAGE 1,9M--------->Factor 50M/1,9M=26.............34M________2,5M

it's the prices for the most expensive players for every lv (and usually the faster trainers). In the column to the right, it's the VALUE and WAGE of the scout list players. As you can see, their value (even if they are 6*) is lower when their wage is bigger.
So, it gives you a hint to recognize (judging also from the lv and the age of the player) an ex-scout player.
Scouts have more "standard" positions : a player DC-DL-DR or an ST-AML or an MC-DMC are ex-fast trainers where the previous manager gave them an extra position.
Also from the special ability of the player. A defender with penalty specialist sa, is an ex-scouter. No one logic manager would give this sa (50 skill points) to his player.

[khris]

I am not agree with the new Scouts prices... I think that price of these have to be decreased during the season in some %,,,, because is not fair waste 59T the last week for a scout by my viewpoint for example....

About Tommy's suituation, we all know about that, 6* are not a guarantee of nothing because this game is not like Fifa, in where if you control a player with + speed will be super easy win 10 leagues, here we need this ability called intuition to see if a player works or not despite the Quality of the player.
Thats Top Eleven.
In my case but, Ive to say that 90% of scouts I buy are good... but that was with the old list, with less scouts.. now I think is crashed, more players in the list de + % of bad players LOL