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Originally Posted by Rubenito
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You have moneys IRL, 2 nice cars, etc, stop crying here and donate :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rubenito
i refuse to buy scouted players this season. Yes i think i have a better chance now of winning this cup. (were see) but i refuse to give Nordeus the satisfaction of me buying scouts just for this comp. If i go out early in the comp so be itQuote:
Originally Posted by shwanko07
However you look at it it's a stupid business decision by Nordeus because it will make the people that buy tokens less likely to buy more. I'm one that will not buy more after this because it makes no sense for me to manipulate my quality level just so I can get paired in an easier cup. At least before it went rightly to high level managers because they had at least fought themselves up the league systems... at least if you are on an old server. I might still play the game but it will be in a more casual way and only concentrate on the league and CL. I had wished to some day win the cup but I refuse to destroy my team to do so.
I'm the only level 7 in my pairing and the rest are 8-10s and it annoys me that the risk that some half active player wins it just because his quality was crap at the end of the season and now he/she can just buy a few players for a token or two that is 15 points better than mine.
If they wanted to redo it they should have done it by league levels instead. The old cup system was better though I never stood a chance to win it.
The way this is going I think everyone is buying more tokens, look at the transfer market....They all want advantage over their cup opponents. Trust me, it's a weapon race out there.
I will have trophy this or likely next season :) i do not like playing against +20-30 skill stronger players level 11-16, me at level 8 at present. Better have 10% chance of winning than 0%. Much better ratio. You may not agree but I like new improvement. It will not help me this season, but next I will come back to take out CUP trophy.
I wonder if this will spring and advent of more people to resorting to extreme methods such as Power Training and the Personal Trainer to get some players to 9* Legends?Quote:
Originally Posted by fmldotcom
Thats why I waited until server reopened first thing this morning to look for the best Nordeus generated young players, 18 year old AMC a half dozen skill points was bought for 2T, People probably hadn't realised what happened yet when I got my little Hatsune Miku.Quote:
Originally Posted by fmldotcom
What What??? Come again? I'm in Toronto, Easter Time....Can you be more specific of the time this happens for each server?Quote:
Originally Posted by July Fourth
It's not Easter yet ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by fmldotcom
It was about 4.50 am GMT when I got back on and the signing was made at around 5.30 GMT, just in time before people started to find out about the Royal Rumble Cup format... I got the player I wanted and I needed first!Quote:
Originally Posted by fmldotcom
Ohhh, well now it's crazy, I just put up my player for sale but it takes 5 and half hours till auction ends...we actually 2 hours away before maintainance. How do you calculate the amount of time for auction because it varies each time...But i'm not worried, last night I couldnt get jack after maintainance either....So many ppl stay awake and try go dig gold now...it don't work no more.Quote:
Originally Posted by July Fourth
someone is so mad they just peed their pantiesQuote:
Originally Posted by reallaw
When a new season begins I discovered 2 seasons ago on my server that when it opens up after maintenance there are Nordeus generated players on the transfer market to get the auctions going at the beginning of the season and they are all young 18-20 years 5* players and theres about 30-50 of them, so getting in just after start of the new season has worked for me the last few seasons I've picked up 5 good young players this way that I normally use as back up or if they are ace trainers then I may even power train them.Quote:
Originally Posted by fmldotcom
If you list players with less than 3 hours left to maintenance then the system normally makes the auctions last over 5 hours to cover for maintenance time.
"Token Buyers will of used many tokens to vastly improve to 5-10 quality better than any other team in their level, meaning that when this new cup draw comes out they are playing against managers that are 1-2 levels higher than them and while a manager thats 2 levels higher than a token buyer they can buy a 5* player from the transfer market for a few tokens each for a player with more quality than the token buyer pays 50T for their scout players each and that means the token buyers are now at a disadvantage in the cup competitions because of this reason."
wow, that is ONE long sentence haha. I actually had a hard time understanding what you were trying to say since it seems that you bunched together quite a lot of sentences into one big one. Perhaps dividing that sentence up into smaller ones and properly explaining what it is you are thinking about, will help more ppl to understand the problem better?
I am pretty good in reading comprehension but if even I have trouble understanding you, then i am sure that the ppl at nordeus will have too since they usually misunderstand things easily
Well for once i have to disagree. I understand the situation you feel like you've finished in, but it'a a question of balance.
An eye for an eye.
Yes, you do spend money to improve over the average rate your team, resulting in having a squad with 5,10,15 points avg better than any other team in your league (apart samre tokens buyer parties). Yes, you do get disavantaged into cup now, and only into cup. Why is it not fair? Being a non buyer and having to league, CL, and cup fight teams 10-15 Q better might look unfair to them aswell.
Keep in mind that low tokens buyers > few large buyers alwais on any game. All Nordeus did was balancing the competitions creating something where who buy tokens to be the best and be at Q X fights same qualities X.
Ofc, still this isn't much of a jack of all trades. IE, i'm facing an opponent in Cup with my same lv (3) but a team with quality 36. Yesterday it was 33,5 , today was 36,4, tomorrow will probably be 40 by that time. His striker went from 36 to 40 in 12 hours. So should i say now New Cup format sucks cause puts me to people 15 points over me? On both sides are losses. And honetsly you can probably have some real thrill apart from keeping getting 26-0-0's every season. Loss is a part of growth :P
Thats probably just down to the way I type sometimes and mention things. It was basically a paragraph done in one go. I wasn't great with gramma at school.Quote:
Originally Posted by hullabaloo
15 seasons played, Number of seasons I have went 26-0-0 in the league in our history: 0. In our early days we werent any token buyers with claiming all our tokens from the videos and we kept getting the odd dodgy result and the game trolled me in a few CL finals before, recently being 10 quality ahead of every team in my league has still resulted in the few bad results recently but we have been unbeaten for 77 league games, last 3 seasons were 24-1-1 (lost 1st game because I left reserves in the squad from day before cup game), 25-1-0, 24-2-0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgan O'Bree
Mainly, how many points ahead each of these season you ended up winning the league? What were the last 3 results of your finals? (quarter, semi, final)? If the answer is likely more than 10-15 points, and more than 8-10 aggreagted goals, then the new format makes you "pay" your superior quality pairing you up with higher levels :[Quote:
Originally Posted by July Fourth
Yes, but you don't buy tokens to get better players from the scout or power train just to play teams that above you level wise on a regular basis, because we are playing L17-L18 clubs in the cup this season, It only costs them a dozen tokens to buy some players that can easily sink our team that we spent hundreds of tokens on scouts/PT etc, It doesn't make sense. Last 2 leagues I won by 25 points and the aggregate scorelines for me in semi-finals were 2 goals in my favour last season in both cup and cl semi, Cup final won 5-0, CL final won 5-1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgan O'Bree
I don't get why they set up token buyers with non token buyers....like all my acc are facin higher level teams. How come I don't get to face teams lower level with same quality?Quote:
Originally Posted by July Fourth
It's a chain reaction. Those teams who you say can easily acquire what you have to pay for will face the same issues if they plan to go for the best on their level too. They will get parried with even stronger levels and that up untill higher planes.Quote:
Originally Posted by July Fourth
Ok it's like this. I buy tokens and face teams few levels higher than me. I have all scout teams but to him, my team is all 3-4*. If he really wants, he can get a 5* team for much less tokens and destroy me because his 5* will be my 8*. so the new cup format favors high level teams, how is this fair? I can spend 2000 tokens right now and it's still impossible to get a squad full of 8*. why can't I face a team lower level with same quality? the situation is that you can upgrade your team all season long, so there's no advantage of being token buyer at all. They should input transfer deadline too then, then I wouldn't complain.
lolwut, its good like that... u guys want to pay for tokens and win everything... it would ruin the game.
just start playing for fun with no money in and the game is awesome, paying to win is just lame imo :)
Just like Real Madrid is lame for buying Ronaldo right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gafaton
someone = talking about one guyQuote:
Originally Posted by Rapyer
"they" just peed "their" = talking about more ppl
damn you genius.
You guys won't understand, without the donations the game wouldn't be up. You should be happy other ppl donate for you so you can still play this game. You retarded fat nerd.
If I wanted to play for fun, then I would play checkers with my wife.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gafaton
Based on your comment, did Real Madrid grab all the best players for free?!? I don't think so.
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Originally Posted by reallaw
"their" could have been "her" but I believe you would use "their" when you are not sure of the gender.
assuming you are male, the whole point of this joke was to ridicule and use the fact that your whining sounds like a little girl that urinated in her underwear because of the loss of control of your emotions causing the loss of control in your bowels.
I really don't think that pointing out possible grammar inconsistencies is an appropriate response to an appropriate BURN.
FAIL.
That being said, I like the fact that token buyers are complaining about something. I have seen many times where non-token buyers complain about token buyers because you can Real Madrid/Manc City your way to winning. It is still very rare to see a Twente/Wolfburg/Montpellier win the league, but it happens because any team can win on any given day. But money does not bring consistancy...it brings talent, which does not always translate into winning.
Remember this is just the CUP and is only one "slightly skewed competition" out of 3 during the season. That token buyers complain that they cant get an easy treble anymore makes me smile. Upsets are good to see and give hope to the weaker teams, which are many.
I get the point that token buyers support this game and allow it to continue its existance. Many, and I mean MANY people play for free and dont "donate". Nordeus wont ever make this a perfect game because there are millions of people playing and you can't please everyone.
I think token buyers who complain about this format should just continue to do what they have been doing and remember that they will still win the league and CL with their "stacked" teams. Just hope for a break against the upper echelon of token buyers they meet in the cup.
I think this format will not be in effect next season, but I know they are just trying a few ideas before they settle on a more fair format. It is only 28 days until the new cup season....chillax - things will get better.
In the mean time, give more money to Nordeus :DQuote:
Originally Posted by shwanko07
Twenty did win...in holland. You don't get it, ally leagues are hard and the cups I'm always against higher level but I didn't mind before. I just don't understand why it's strictly higher level for me now. Just because I make my squad strong it means I must face weaker teams from higher level? Why can't I face stronger teams from lower level?Quote:
Originally Posted by cracicot
I would just like to make people aware that I have been forwarding the threads and feedback in regards to the Cup. While I can't promise anything at this point, we are aware that some players are not happy with the new Cup format (and are aware of the reasons behind that), so thank you all for posting your thoughts, both positive and negative.
For now, I'd appreciate if you'd keep us up to date with how you're doing in this Cup compared to other Cups, what's working for you and what's not, and so on. That way, we'll have more information to go on for any future decisions.
It cost me 3,200 tokens to get 8 players power trained to mid-tiered 8* players in L13, so It would cost you around 4,500 tokens to get the quality of your first XI all the way upto mid-tiered 8* players.Quote:
Originally Posted by fmldotcom
And the following season, the system will handicap you again and put you in a MORE difficult cup because you would have all those amazing players at your level.
Im out the cup :(
i said it ? lol. man.city is lame... if i was man.city fan i would be bored right now, they've no merit to have this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by fmldotcom
yah, but why all my teams are the lowest levels? I only invested in 1 team, the other 2 are not, yet I always face higher level. Why don't I get to face like a version of you lower. It seems like its not matching quality to quality, its matching token buyers to non token buyers. The end of this season i'm going to buy two or three 1* players and leave them there if I have room to lower quality and if I still get the same situation then its obvious - tokens vs no tokens.Quote:
Originally Posted by July Fourth
It's interesting because of my high average for my level, I'm put against level 8s and 9s. But players at those levels with an average close to mine are generally abandoned and I can easily beat them. Any level 5s I encounter are scout buyers/PTers and level 6s and 7s would be semi-active to active. So while it's fun to own some higher level teams, I'll end up bumping into some level 7 with a hax 8* team... No chance lol
What team don't want to have Stars bro? and I always get put in a hard league anyways, just CL is easy. I don't get it, non-token buyers play the way they want, we play the way we want, we not forcing you to buy tokens why you calling us lame?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gafaton
Without token buyers, this game will never survive till now.
i just gave my opinion to the thread, i don't live to please the others, i respect ur opinion too bro, just keep paying its fine :pQuote:
Originally Posted by fmldotcom
but the new cup is fine, atleast i play against the ppl with same lvl now, not lv.2 against lv.11
It's like that:
Those who were the top players of they server are normally to scream and shout around here, but what about all those who were facing teams that were 5-6 levels higher than them??
I think it's advantages the token buyers if you think logically because now u have an opponent the same level with you and if u buy all scout team u will be in pole position for the cup
In the old format even if u invest 10000 tokens for season u could't bring your 11 players to 10 stars like the higher level players have apear to your level;)
Yes on general thats the point and it's very logically, before if you was low level you could buy 99999 scouters and it would be useless :) because you will have to fight against team who are 5,10 or 20 levels bigger then you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubenito