Manipulation

[El Pistolero]

Here is my team. I haven't spent a single penny on this game. All my tokens, all my green packs are free.
I watch videos for green packs, i watch videos for tokens, i download and run numerous apps for tokens.

If you spend right, and buy the right players, you wont need to spend anymore than 25 tokens a season.
Parkin, Jacobs and Escobar i got from recommended player list.
Mendiguchia and Psiloudis are low value but their previous form before signing was too good to pass on.
The rest are high value under 21s

My team is crying out for a fast training left back, but I am yet to find one. I wont just bid for the first one i see, yet Mendiguchia has decent ratings so I'm in no hurry.

I also need a new DMC, but yet again no rush because my low quality DL and DMC are playing really well. If i need, I'll power train my reserve Oger.

Follow these methods.
-Don't get into bidding wars.
-Look out for high value U-21s
-Always check the players previous form
(example. Strikers games to goal ratio)

Akabla, he had very good goals per game ratio so i signed him, tested him out, 3 goals in 5 SUB appearances. The following season, i decided to power train him from 4 stars to not far off 6 and gave him one on one ability. Costing me 2 tokens and 180 greens.

All games put pressure on you to pay but if you put the time in, you wont have to. I don't think the game knew you wanted a AML, i don't think they hid them from the market, i think you missed a good opportunity when more players were selling players and thus an influx of AMLs. I think that list of AML of recommended players was always going to show up, had you just been a bit patient. I would advise you to buy him and use the other one you got as a super sub?

[Brian Dang]

Every season, u will see our legend queen have learn something new...glad to that..3 seasons he joints, each season he has learn a new lesson...

[legendqueen]

I'm sorry i was in an uncontrollable anger last night, after my team's 5th draw this season. Also thanks for your sympathy.

I know experienced players always find good ways to cope with the game's spend commanding system. And you tend to look everything with easy eyes, Like mr. Klopp and Nikol

But we can not deny the fact that there is a systematic way that this game makes people spend, and make the ones who spend spend more. It is IMPOSSIBLE to say that the match's result is generated purely by team's figures and the matter of luck. There must be a considerable percentage of "manipulation" that affects the results.

I have a habit of sending friend request to any token buyer that i see in transfer market, then i study their behavior and their results (no kidding - my current job is educational analyst)

This is how i learned: Once you spend, you get good results at first, but "surprises" will happen that makes you spend more, and by any chance if you stop spending, this game will challenge you by forcing you to make a decision whether or not to QUIT playing. Nordeus teaches Top 11 to study and understand our behaviors, our spending habit, then one way or another Top 11 makes us spend more and more.

I had a friend who comes from Japan, he was nice, he always watched my every match. He spent a lot at first season, buying scout, upgrading stadium. He got double tittles in the first season, then in the 2nd season, he stopped spending (but his team is still 5 star rating), he was still really active, but at the end, he ended up 3rd place in league, and a 3 star team won the tittle. And now i never see him again.

Another friend of mine, he's from Indonesia, he spent a lot in 2nd season, he built up a team of 5-6 star 18 YO players, they are all promising, his team value is almost double as mine. But now after 2 seasons, what he got is nothing but 2 league tittles, because in the previous 2 seasons, he didnt spend anything, and troll results came to him continuously.

I can give you more stories like this, about beginners like me who decide to pay cash for this game, they don't usually get "happy ending". And the only NERD in my friend list who won 2 treples in a round is the one who has spent NONE. You can call him lucky guy but i would rather consider him "smart" because he doesn't get himself into Top 11's manipulation.

[Joseph Sjarifudin]

You spend or not, as long you have a good team then prepare to lower your emo at next season.

Better team = hard life at next season, +4 / +5 level Cup and also play with 5*-6*-7* team at League, and if you follow your ego then you will spend more coz not all person can accept LOSE, they all want WIN, no matter what.
So, not game engine make you spend more, but your EGO

Win - lose - draw doesn't matter as long you can enjoy game.
Game was made for killing time and for fun, not mean to make you more stress, but if you stress because game this mean you take game too serious

CMIIW

[legendqueen]

You spend or not, as long you have a good team then prepare to lower your emo at next season.

Better team = hard life at next season, +4 / +5 level Cup and also play with 5*-6*-7* team at League, and if you follow your ego then you will spend more coz not all person can accept LOSE, they all want WIN, no matter what.
So, not game engine make you spend more, but your EGO

Win - lose - draw doesn't matter as long you can enjoy game.
Game was made for killing time and for fun, not mean to make you more stress, but if you stress because game this mean you take game too serious

CMIIW

Yeah, my bad. I took it too serious. I wanted to to win. This is how Nordeus can take away my tokens.

[El Pistolero]

You spend or not, as long you have a good team then prepare to lower your emo at next season.

Better team = hard life at next season, +4 / +5 level Cup and also play with 5*-6*-7* team at League, and if you follow your ego then you will spend more coz not all person can accept LOSE, they all want WIN, no matter what.
So, not game engine make you spend more, but your EGO

Win - lose - draw doesn't matter as long you can enjoy game.
Game was made for killing time and for fun, not mean to make you more stress, but if you stress because game this mean you take game too serious

CMIIW

This is how I view it.

My team has been thrown into a 6 star League so it's quite difficult. I might not win the League this season but the harder the test, the harder the lesson. I'll learn a lot this season.

When I lose a match, I look at what I could of done as a player to win the match.
- maybe I could of been a bit more cautious/aggressive in attack?
- maybe I played a weak formation?
- maybe I was just unlucky?

I ignore the need to spend to replace certain players. I'll take a 4* with 8-8-9-9-8 form over a scout with unknown form any day.

[gizzmo]

You spend or not, as long you have a good team then prepare to lower your emo at next season.

Better team = hard life at next season, +4 / +5 level Cup and also play with 5*-6*-7* team at League, and if you follow your ego then you will spend more coz not all person can accept LOSE, they all want WIN, no matter what.
So, not game engine make you spend more, but your EGO

Win - lose - draw doesn't matter as long you can enjoy game.
Game was made for killing time and for fun, not mean to make you more stress, but if you stress because game this mean you take game too serious

CMIIW

I completely disagree with that. No matter what you spend, the league is always going to be difficult as you'll face players of your level. I am not complaining against strong opposition (which is nice and exciting), I am complaining against silly results against weak, half-abandoned teams. We all know how to get a (seemingly) easier cup. But saying that we do not consider players who are doing exatly the same, so the result will not be as easy as expected. By the way, I hardly face any troll result in cup or CL. It is just league. I lost my last too cups (and it was logical). I won my last two CL (and it was logical all the same).

[cookizzz]

I do not defend for Nordeus. I believe that T11 is designed design to encourage token buying. It is possible they have system function to manipulate results as legend queen said. But I believe that some unsuccessful team story are result that some managers rely too much on improving team qualities and insist to use high quality players.

Low quality players with good form always out-perform good quality bad form players. In my opinion, a good team is competitive and can find a way to survive under adverse situation. High quality players are more likely to play but they can be replaced by backup low quality players if they are in bad form. On the other hand, every team have bad days. Sometimes, they may be out performed by opposite teams which are looked weaker. They must find a way not to fail in such matches. Failure can continue if they are not properly handled. After a bad loss, I should make some changes to avoid failure continue. Most players cannot maintain good performance all the times. Even the best players, sometimes they should be benched for a few matches to facilitate well performing in long term. In general, I believe there should be some methods to fix bad performances of teams which are used to be good. Certainly, the success target should be always champions in case the competitors are also strong.

In fact I think Nordeus is not too aggressive to maximize tokens buying. They can find some ways to get rid of most teams which do not pay for several years AND can challenge the token buying teams. Then the game will be full of competitive teams. Then token buying teams must pay more to be successful. At the same time, Nordeus can reduce server maintenance cost and time. Well, this is not my suggestion.

[Loghin Marius Ionuţ]

Thank you guys for your posts here, they help us to understand that think ,if we spend we`ll don t have result , contrar the game make us to spend more and more.
For me was the same, I`am just level 14 manager , 13 Club with 4 club managed,last season i was 1st , the next season( this season) i was thinking it s ok to spend some tokens to have a bigger teams beacause all teams form league was with very strongs team.
So i buy one time 80 tokens..i spend them veryy fast because my team was very old and low stars..after i fihinis tokens, was not enough to buy all players i need, and the problem was, all the players i get was verry easy (don t get in bidding wars) 1 , 2 or 3 token...and i remai with balance low, like -189 m..so i was forced to buy some tokens again to complete the balance, ok, but some tokens was left, so i get in transfers again, and after again i was with budget low.....i start the league, but nothing don t was like i expecting with a high team, rating of 82 stars of my team..every match with the new team was very deasapointing, i play in 3 competition, morale was good,win bonus and formations i tried before and have excelent result, so i try any difereent formation, i study my opponent every time i look it for counter formation( if is this real) , log in this game hour by hour to try and think diferent formation,transfers......
So i buy again tokens.
I spend like 240 tokens for my team in almost a week..to get not result, i have 1 win in league with 4 defeats in a row.
The game its more and more hard by spending...i see that,so i say ( f..k i don t play it anymore, or i brake my lapotop or my phone ) its ridicol...thank you guys , it s more sucessuful i have you all here on this forum..it s more helping than spending tokens ) ...

Look at this match from today ( first match with him was win by me with 0-2 at his home, with a team weaker than this from now ,,make me to look so ridicolous ,knowing i spend a lot for my team...and this team,( maybe abandoned , not everyday signer like me) beat me so easily home..with a ridicol formation! SOORY FOR MY ENGLISH!

[gizzmo]

Thank you for this thread. But I think the answers do not go to the point.
You are suggesting legendqueen not to buy tokens. But this is not the issue: Nordeus SHOULD give an advantage to those who buy !
Here we find many people complaining that they have bought tokens and still lose.Where is Nordeus interest there ?
I have a huge amount of tokens. But I just bought 2-3 % of this amount. Actually, in this game, I spend 95% of my time farming tokens. But what I see is this: the more I spend tokens, the more my life is made difficult. For 3 seasons in a row, I have a first week with more losses than wins.This against weaker sides.
Suddenly comes a burst of victories without me making any changes to my team. This is just silly. When a weaker side beats you, you call that a troll resut. But these are not troll results in my case, just a pattern.
I see many threads coming on the forum about results being set before the game. And I am starting to believe this is true. And this would be a major cheating by Nordeus. I played so many games the last two seasons against much weaker, half abandoned teams. Manager absent off coure.I could try wathever I wanted during the game, nothing changed: more shots, ridiculous ball possession, still l I lost. Just as if the game were deliberately aiming at me. And I shoud not say me, I should say people like me. Nordeus should love me, I spend 3-400 tokens per season. And please do not tell me: stop spending.I just do not believe that you could be winning at this game without tokens. By the way, "winning" means to me being a treeble candidate. Not winning the league one season out of 2.