Manipulation

[Brian Dang]

Thank you for this thread. But I think the answers do not go to the point.
You are suggesting legendqueen not to buy tokens. But this is not the issue: Nordeus SHOULD give an advantage to those who buy !
Here we find many people complaining that they have bought tokens and still lose.Where is Nordeus interest there ?
I have a huge amount of tokens. But I just bought 2-3 % of this amount. Actually, in this game, I spend 95% of my time farming tokens. But what I see is this: the more I spend tokens, the more my life is made difficult. For 3 seasons in a row, I have a first week with more losses than wins.This against weaker sides.
Suddenly comes a burst of victories without me making any changes to my team. This is just silly. When a weaker side beats you, you call that a troll resut. But these are not troll results in my case, just a pattern.
I see many threads coming on the forum about results being set before the game. And I am starting to believe this is true. And this would be a major cheating by Nordeus. I played so many games the last two seasons against much weaker, half abandoned teams. Manager absent off coure.I could try wathever I wanted during the game, nothing changed: more shots, ridiculous ball possession, still l I lost. Just as if the game were deliberately aiming at me. And I shoud not say me, I should say people like me. Nordeus should love me, I spend 3-400 tokens per season. And please do not tell me: stop spending.I just do not believe that you could be winning at this game without tokens. By the way, "winning" means to me being a treeble candidate. Not winning the league one season out of 2.

HEHE..U should be the GREATEST ALL TIMES TREBLE CHAMPION with 3-400 tokens every season..

To be honest, i can be like that if i have just about 100 tokens every season...

[legendqueen]

Thank you guys for your posts here, they help us to understand that think ,if we spend we`ll don t have result , contrar the game make us to spend more and more.
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I share your feeling it seems that your situation is worse than mine, wish luck will be on your side from now on. And take my advice: stop buying token, you will win gradually but won't get angry.

Thank you for this thread. But I think the answers do not go to the point.
You are suggesting legendqueen not to buy tokens.....

My point is not about whether to buy token or not, neither about several matches have ridiculous results. My point is to reveal the hidden game's mechanics to stimulate players who made 1 token purchase to spend their tokens and buy more from the shop.

[El Pistolero]

So because you buy tokens you should be competing for the treble and because you're not that's nordeous' fault?

Yes, you're right. You should be competing for the treble with 400 tokens. If I had 400 tokens I'd be laughing.

Everyone always looks to blame the game but in truth, it's mostly their inexperience.

[gizzmo]

Amen you great one

[El Pistolero]

Amen you great one

Bow to me you peasant!

I'm kidding. Look, having 300-400 tokens is useful. But is more than you need. If you want to be successful try buying 3 or 4 high value and wage under 21 year olds. Don't forget to look at their previous form. You might find a hidden gem. If he has form like 8-9-8-6-8 chances are he'll have similar form for you. Some players play better than others.

What I do is I find some young fast trainers, I make sure they perform and when I can I use green packs to train them. 180 greens will add a star and a special ability. These are the kind of players that last seasons and seasons.

[gizzmo]

Good answer from you but honest I was a bit upset by your "experience" response. What I was saying (in this thread and others) is that I suspect a deliberate action made by Nordeus to force people like me (who spend lots of tokens - but not BUY in my case at least) to spend even more. What I said is that starting from 2 seasons ago, I go through the same "valley of despair" thing where I can hardly win a game. And, suddenly, I become unstoppable without changing a thing. Both periods are stupid I think. I rekkon a 7 star team should beat a 3-4 star one 99 % of the times. Not 50%. Specially when there is no manager there.
I read the forum, I know the counter tactics. And when I don't, I play like my opponent, which should give the best team the edge. But seeing my in-game tactic just not doing anything make me mad. The other day I started defensive: after 30 minutes, I had 70% ball possession, 12 shots to 8 and was 0-2 down. Switched to normal, then attacking with pressing and off-side on. Result: 22 shots to 12 and 1-4 !! So not only the shot pattern remained the same, but I was destroyed in both configurations.
By the way you said you'd laugh with 400 tokens but what would you do that I don't ? That should be interesting.

[El Pistolero]

Good answer from you but honest I was a bit upset by your "experience" response. What I was saying (in this thread and others) is that I suspect a deliberate action made by Nordeus to force people like me (who spend lots of tokens - but not BUY in my case at least) to spend even more. What I said is that starting from 2 seasons ago, I go through the same "valley of despair" thing where I can hardly win a game. And, suddenly, I become unstoppable without changing a thing. Both periods are stupid I think. I rekkon a 7 star team should beat a 3-4 star one 99 % of the times. Not 50%. Specially when there is no manager there.
I read the forum, I know the counter tactics. And when I don't, I play like my opponent, which should give the best team the edge. But seeing my in-game tactic just not doing anything make me mad. The other day I started defensive: after 30 minutes, I had 70% ball possession, 12 shots to 8 and was 0-2 down. Switched to normal, then attacking with pressing and off-side on. Result: 22 shots to 12 and 1-4 !! So not only the shot pattern remained the same, but I was destroyed in both configurations.
By the way you said you'd laugh with 400 tokens but what would you do that I don't ? That should be interesting.

I never intended to offend anyone only share my experience. And when I say inexperience I mean having a 7 star team with bad tactics isn't going to win you games. I am Level 26 so I'm not the most experience, I'm still learning new things everyday. I have noticed having a bad start and making changes is a lot harder to come back from. Also making too many changes can disrupt your team. Do you want advice for a base tactic and orders?

With 300-400 tokens, I'd do the same thing I do now. Buy fast trainers and train them. I might buy one or two scouts who look very useful.

[Duncton]

What I said is that starting from 2 seasons ago, I go through the same "valley of despair" thing where I can hardly win a game. And, suddenly, I become unstoppable without changing a thing.

I don't buy tokens, but the same thing happens to me. One day I'm struggling, the next I'm soaring. So it could be Nordeus' way to make you spend more, but it doesn't affect only those of us who spend money on this game.

I don't really believe it though. If anything, I'd say they wanted to make the game more realistic, with teams having good and bad periods. It's just that the balance seems to be a little off...

Both periods are stupid I think. I rekkon a 7 star team should beat a 3-4 star one 99 % of the times. Not 50%.

I think you have a point there. At the moment it just feels too random. Having a strong team and using the right tactics doesn't seem to be as important as the current form of your team as a whole. Again, I'd say it's a question of balance.

On the other hand, I think it's still the most dedicated managers who spend the most time (and/or money) on building their team and tactics who perform best and win the most prizes. So it's not all about form.


One other thing is that I have been looking for an AML/ML since the start of this season and haven't found one yet. They're just pretty hard to come by (and no, I'm not going to buy a single token to get one ).

[Arion]

I think it's still the most dedicated managers who spend the most time (and/or money) on building their team and tactics who perform best and win the most prizes. So it's not all about form.

True. That's the most important thing; I've said that time and again. Nothing can beat the pleasure of winning a trophy after putting so much time and effort.

[Brian Dang]

Smart manager is the one talk less and win more with his own effort...

A Game is always just a game.. It's all depend on each person's point of view...Some has money they wanna spend and killing the time..they can buy/sell/farm/train just like how in the real life the manager of the club want his club to be... The other dont have much cash so they think of the way how to play with minimum investment...

Nordeus end of the day is game-design profit company so it's very easy to understand of how they can make money out of players's pocket..Nothing wrong with that..

U can choose to play or leave..It's your own choice...

Here mainly many people just think of the game as the place to reduce stress after a hard working day or free time to relax...

So take it easy..nothing is free or no free lunch in this world...