Say something about Chinese associations!

[PricopGeorgeCătălin]

All i know from playing a few mobile games is that rich chinese players are usually obscenely rich and spend a lot of money.

I have two chinese managers on my friends list and neither of them look like they are doing anything fishy to win, football is global game we can all love, unless you're English lol.

We don't debate if they are rich or not . China is one of the biggest countries with a great economy (at least for some of them) so is clearly that there are N and N rich people over there, nobody doubt that but at the same time there are exploiters, as you could see so far. They use VPN because they can't log so they abuse the system on this excuse.
(Some of them, not all, of course)


@BridgeGoth, there's an detection system but is impossible to add there all the vpn ips over the internet so they detect only a small amount of VPNs.

@Paivinha , that's not an excuse, you can't blame the X and Y country for having more ads, Is normal I think as long is not Top Eleven who decide what ads can appear and the number of them. Life's not fair we must accept it.

@a1i, life's not fair, the game basically provides same for everyone no matter what's your country. Thinking there are N countries and economies they can't develop unique prices and offers from a country to another. The only issue here is, what is legal and what is not and not what is fair and what is not.

[Bunzo]

We don't debate if they are rich or not . China is one of the biggest countries with a great economy (at least for some of them) so is clearly that there are N and N rich people over there, nobody doubt that but at the same time there are exploiters, as you could see so far. They use VPN because they can't log so they abuse the system on this excuse.
(Some of them, not all, of course)


@BridgeGoth, there's an detection system but is impossible to add there all the vpn ips over the internet so they detect only a small amount of VPNs.

@Paivinha , that's not an excuse, you can't blame the X and Y country for having more ads, Is normal I think as long is not Top Eleven who decide what ads can appear and the number of them. Life's not fair we must accept it.

@a1i, life's not fair, the game basically provides same for everyone no matter what's your country. Thinking there are N countries and economies they can't develop unique prices and offers from a country to another. The only issue here is, what is legal and what is not and not what is fair and what is not.

Well said….
The point is what is legal & it seems the Chinese players (not all of them ) are breaking the rules….What has been done so far to combat this ?

[Moi]

We don't debate if they are rich or not . China is one of the biggest countries with a great economy (at least for some of them) so is clearly that there are N and N rich people over there, nobody doubt that but at the same time there are exploiters, as you could see so far. They use VPN because they can't log so they abuse the system on this excuse.
(Some of them, not all, of course)

Well said….
The point is what is legal & it seems the Chinese players (not all of them ) are breaking the rules….What has been done so far to combat this ?

There are some Chinese users who abuse from VPN, as there are users from other countries that abuse from VPN too. Most of the Chinese users don't abuse, they use VPN to connect and get offers from China, not other countries, as most of the users around the World don't abuse either.

Anyone caught abusing VPN will receive a ban, whatever his nationality may be. User's nationality doesn't matter in here (or anywhere in the game). Chinese are not special, like any other user if they abuse they will receive a ban.

[PricopGeorgeCătălin]

Anyone caught abusing VPN will receive a ban, whatever his nationality may be. User's nationality doesn't matter in here (or anywhere in the game). Chinese are not special, like any other user if they abuse they will receive a ban.

Not 100% right. As somebody from here who used VPN confirmed. He used VPN and he received just a warning. I also know some people only got their tokens and boosters removed. Not sure what's the criteria behind this but not everyone is getting banned. That's a fact .

[Moi]

Not 100% right. As somebody from here who used VPN confirmed. He used VPN and he received just a warning. I also know some people only got their tokens and boosters removed. Not sure what's the criteria behind this but not everyone is getting banned. That's a fact .

Every case is different and it depends on the size of the abuse, of course. It's not the same a guy who has been completing free offers without VPN and then used VPN a bit, with a guy who has get 20.000 tokens using VPN.

Everyone ABUSING VPN and getting caught is getting a ban. Obtaining a couple of tokens / day with VPN during a week is not abusing, although the user in this case would get his tokens deducted and receive a warning.

Of course we are talking about using VPN but legally completing offers / watching videos. Cheating gets an instant ban no matter how small was the offer.

[Kaizer Franz]

This topic must be close now

[Teda]

Cannot agree more.

Folks, when you lose your games please recheck your own team and your tactics, do not always keep eyes on others. If you suspect sowmone is cheating please take a snapshot and send it to Moi, instead of posting this type threads without any concrete evidence. Nordeus can always check the managers profile and they have tools to 100% ensure no cheaters in this game, we should trust them. We should also respect and appreciate all the token buyers who make this game FREE for some of us.

Moi, can we close out this topic and all the ones with the similar topic? This forum looks very nasty now and it needs to be cleaned for a bit.

Thanks.

[a1i]

@a1i, life's not fair, the game basically provides same for everyone no matter what's your country. Thinking there are N countries and economies they can't develop unique prices and offers from a country to another. The only issue here is, what is legal and what is not and not what is fair and what is not.

Hey man, I don't even see my reply. Has it scared some of the mods for its revolutionary zeal?


Anyway, there you go in circles again. You were the one who brought up fairness, Nordeus support bring it up too. Yet now it's about legality.
There's a doozy one for you: Isn't it illegal PRECISELY because you all claim it is unfair and you have to level the playing field?

So it's unfair but the issue isn't what is fair and what is not, it is about legality (which, of course, is based on fairness).

Had you posted my initial message this would have looked silly

[a1i]

Like I have said a zillion times already, being rich is unfair why don't you make being rich and buying tokens illegal cause it's not a playing field, we all do not have the same resources as rich rich folk.


Again guys, I actually don't even get free ads much, it's time consuming and must hurt the head to watch 200 ads or howmuchever they said they used to. I use tokens to buy rests.

I'm talking about practical solutions. I hate bans, I hate arbitrary numbers. Tell me why 35 not 46. Why was it 50 then a few days later 35. It's odd.

My solution is to have partnerships with as many ad providers around the world as possible, there are much much much more than 1-4 nordeus use. And THEN put a cap on the amount of videos one can see. So then we can see if it is truly a matter of not everyone sees the same, or a matter of someone somewhere think the Chinese have too much time on their hand and we westerners have no time in our busy schedules, hence the 35 number

Playing devil's advocate, don't censor me please.

[Moi]

Hey man, I don't even see my reply. Has it scared some of the mods for its revolutionary zeal?


Anyway, there you go in circles again. You were the one who brought up fairness, Nordeus support bring it up too. Yet now it's about legality.
There's a doozy one for you: Isn't it illegal PRECISELY because you all claim it is unfair and you have to level the playing field?

So it's unfair and these people are "but the issue what is fair and what is not, it is about legality (of course which is based on fairness).

Had you posted my initial message this would have looked silly

Hey a1i, I just saw your "moderated" comment. I think your text was too long for the few messages you have here and the system automatically moderated that post (it's an antispam filter).

Just to confirm one thing that I believe will address some confusion you have here:

Using VPN does not allow anyone to go over the limits / day. It would only allow that user to "see" offers from different countries, but whenever he has reached the limit, doesn't matter if he sees more from other places, he won't receive more boosters until the next day.

Chinese users who need to use VPN are only allowed to complete Chinese offers, like any other user around the World. Anyone using VPN to complete other coutries' offers will get punished, doesn't matter if he's Chinese or not.