Almost as bad as "cheating" token buyers!

[cracicot]

man you guys are very close minded. I have bought tokens, yes, but I would prefer to be in a non-token league playing against non-token buyers. I am surprised at the amount of idiots on this board who dont read properly.

ice87s: I am clever, thanks for noticing. BUT I am far from a kid. I am most likely 2x your age.

ndog: if I had a choice, I would never buy tokens and would love to compete against non-token buyers in a separate league.
Since you have not read any of my other posts, I understand your lack of insight on my insight. How much money do you think they spend on this website? They make oodles of $$$ on this website and creating another website for non-token buyers would be a drop in the bucket for them.

Sustainable from a business point of view? adverts, adverts, adverts. the token buyer league makes more than enough for a free league. Dont kid yourself...Nordeus makes a $hitload of money.

[ndog]

You have always had a choice whether to buy tokens or not and you have - don't understand "I would never buy tokens"

I read your other posts (notice how I knew you had spent tokens before...!) doesn't make them right though. Whether they can afford it or not is immaterial, they can afford to host a website to raise money for orphaned badgers but doesn't mean that's a sound business decision. You said "At the end of the day, the token-buying league would support both websites" - why should it? If now you're saying that they could have the non-token one still at profit without the other, then maybe they could, but again - if it makes less (and it would) why would they? Do Nordeus pitch up to work every day so that they can maximise the entertainment of some strangers or do they do it to earn money, grow and expand? You propose a shoddy business idea.

[cracicot]

You propose a shoddy business idea.

Shoddy or not, I would do it to please the masses. Its a damn good idea, regardless of what you think.
It addresses the inequality and just plain unfairness in this game.

And whether they can afford it or not is an excellent point. They can easily afford it. Why would they do something like this? To appeal to an ever growing fanbase unsatisfied by the obvious disparity between thousands of teams if not more.

Do you really find it so outlandish that a non-token league is started? Why would they do that you ask? The competition would be more fair in every way. Managers would have to buy and spend on a set budget. there would be fair cup competitions. LESS Whinging.

At the end of the day, I think it would be a better league overall than any paid league where more money buys more chances of winning.

THAT my friend, is a very valid idea. Do I think Nordeus was do this based on the capitalist agenda every company worships? No. Would I support a company who comes up with a competitor league that offers this type of competition? Hell yes.

Would I still play Top11? Yes, but i wont put any more tokens in. At this point I would say I have put $30 in 2 seasons as I have bought one scout per season. I just cant justify putting hundreds of $$$ into this game. Kudos to those who can. i just wish they were in a different league than me so things could be a bit more fair.

I would hazard a guess that most of the people that oppose this idea are token buyers. I expect as much. The mentality of "ïf you cant afford it, dont play" is just so ignorant.

Ice87s: I never said I dislike the game. I just give ideas for improving it. Grow up???? Wow, I will not lower myself to your level. I have seen a lot of your posts and sorry, you are just a narrow-minded kid. Take your own advice and grow up.

[ndog]

Interestingly you have spent a lot more than me in a third of the time, so it's not just token buyers who don't like your idea. I have in 6 seasons won the league 4 times, cup once and CL 3 times so I also don't feel I need a spending free version to be able to compete.

Whilst I entirely understand why you think it is a good idea, I just don't see how Nordeus could justify it financially - Additional support of non spenders is hard to prioritise and the risk of spenders stopping spending is too great (as others have said, why would you spend to only have the same chance as if you chose not to spend?)

[cosmin100]

Interestingly you have spent a lot more than me in a third of the time, so it's not just token buyers who don't like your idea. I have in 6 seasons won the league 4 times, cup once and CL 3 times so I also don't feel I need a spending free version to be able to compete.

Whilst I entirely understand why you think it is a good idea, I just don't see how Nordeus could justify it financially - Additional support of non spenders is hard to prioritise and the risk of spenders stopping spending is too great (as others have said, why would you spend to only have the same chance as if you chose not to spend?)

Forget Nordeus and their financial situation: they make millions on this game don't you worry about this A 2 league will be interesting but I prefer only one as this is rewarding for a non-paying manager when he beats a token buyer There is enought place for everyone as well as everyone is entitled to his ideas.

[cracicot]

Forget Nordeus and their financial situation: they make millions on this game don't you worry about this A 2 league will be interesting but I prefer only one as this is rewarding for a non-paying manager when he beats a token buyer There is enought place for everyone as well as everyone is entitled to his ideas.

Indeed, it is great when a non-paying manager beats a token buyer. I love that. BUT it is a bit $hitty when the only team in your league is a token-addict and has 20 world class players, kicking everyone's ass 10-0. Great, so the rest of the teams play for 2nd place, which is not fun knowing you can never win 1st. Believe me, im hoping someone can beat him, but even I lost 4-0 and im 2nd in the league.

[dv8r]

Indeed, it is great when a non-paying manager beats a token buyer. I love that. BUT it is a bit $hitty when the only team in your league is a token-addict and has 20 world class players, kicking everyone's ass 10-0. Great, so the rest of the teams play for 2nd place, which is not fun knowing you can never win 1st. Believe me, im hoping someone can beat him, but even I lost 4-0 and im 2nd in the league.

I have beaten scout teams before I started investing. I even prevented one scout buyer from progressing past the group stages of the CL. So you see, it's more than possible to beat them and even troll them around

[July Fourth]

Indeed, it is great when a non-paying manager beats a token buyer. I love that. BUT it is a bit $hitty when the only team in your league is a token-addict and has 20 world class players, kicking everyone's ass 10-0. Great, so the rest of the teams play for 2nd place, which is not fun knowing you can never win 1st. Believe me, im hoping someone can beat him, but even I lost 4-0 and im 2nd in the league.

Well you wouldn't want to be in Darth Sidious's League...

[ice87s]

man you guys are very close minded. I have bought tokens, yes, but I would prefer to be in a non-token league playing against non-token buyers. I am surprised at the amount of idiots on this board who dont read properly.

ice87s: I am clever, thanks for noticing. BUT I am far from a kid. I am most likely 2x your age.

ndog: if I had a choice, I would never buy tokens and would love to compete against non-token buyers in a separate league.
Since you have not read any of my other posts, I understand your lack of insight on my insight. How much money do you think they spend on this website? They make oodles of $$$ on this website and creating another website for non-token buyers would be a drop in the bucket for them.

Sustainable from a business point of view? adverts, adverts, adverts. the token buyer league makes more than enough for a free league. Dont kid yourself...Nordeus makes a $hitload of money.

This is what it is....

You can stop playing if you dislike this game. Nordeus will nvr give a sh!t about it. Forget about separate league and grow up.....