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    With my competative mind, I must advance. And the thought of tanking, meaning losing on purpose. Goes against every thing I believe sport is. Doing the best you can. Why do sport if you are not trying your best?
    That said I believe it is a programming issue. The consequences of losing that much just isn't there.
    The concept of relegation should really be implementet IMHO, so you can't build a power squad for several seasons, and then roll all down when you decide to compete again.
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    I really ask: what's different to use the draw exploit?

    You don't build up a +7* squad... but if using draw-exploit, you are a +7* squad for everyone else...



    There are also some things about the game design I don't like... but if you are Osasuna, you can't blame Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid and FC Barcelona for being such strong. If you have no money, you can't blame PSG, Manchester City,... that they have "unlimited" money. It's the way it works right now. You... the manager can give your best to get hired by one of this teams.
    T11 doesn't work like this... but you can't blame players, who use it like it works.

    For sure, I don't like the cup draw (because of that exploiting), but I deal with it as long as it's in the game. I try to motivate my team as much as possible to give their best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nash123 View Post
    I really ask: what's different to use the draw exploit?

    You don't build up a +7* squad... but if using draw-exploit, you are a +7* squad for everyone else...



    There are also some things about the game design I don't like... but if you are Osasuna, you can't blame Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid and FC Barcelona for being such strong. If you have no money, you can't blame PSG, Manchester City,... that they have "unlimited" money. It's the way it works right now. You... the manager can give your best to get hired by one of this teams.
    T11 doesn't work like this... but you can't blame players, who use it like it works.

    For sure, I don't like the cup draw (because of that exploiting), but I deal with it as long as it's in the game. I try to motivate my team as much as possible to give their best.
    You're wrong!

    People here are against tankers, not token buyers. In fact we should love token buyers, they provide financial resource for developers and help game continue. But, tankers are destroying the game. Tanking make the games become boring and is against the nature of football. And I believe tanking is not something Nordeus expected when they designed the level system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonio Gustavo Hernandez View Post
    That would make me very happy, I am a token buyer and
    Building beyond 7* squad/roster (11 8/9* players) using token or real money for power training how cost effective, is that really cheap my friend; I don't think you'll be happy if you calculate the cost

    I think it's 325 (+/-) token to give one star to one player using power train. Now count for 11 players. One or two 8/9* player in your team I don't think make any big difference against a 7* squad.

    As they bring SL, I don't thing it's hard for them to make another competition (second division league as I explain) for 9-13 positions team/club; demote those club, let them come back after competing second division league.

    Also they can bring vacation mode, so who ever like to stay at same club lvl without tanking or participating his/her current lvl league then they can go for 1/2 season vacation. In that case, they can't login until vacation time over and no improvement for club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibangali View Post
    Building beyond 7* squad/roster (11 8/9* players) using token or real money for power training how cost effective, is that really cheap my friend; I don't think you'll be happy if you calculate the cost

    I think it's 325 (+/-) token to give one star to one player using power train. Now count for 11 players. One or two 8/9* player in your team I don't think make any big difference against a 7* squad.
    No, I did not mean full of 8* or even one 9* 11, it would be a team of a really heavy token buyer, because after 8* the cost for PT increases more to 160 tokens per 4% for one player. It really makes since you already do not face much with 7 star teams except the cup unless you finish the season with a regular team by selling all these 7 and 8* players. Sometimes I have 2-3 or 4 8* players, sometimes more, sometimes none, it depends on the budget I have for that month and the opponents in the competitions. I also do not use always PT, I power train my players to 130% and then hire PT to make a player to 140%. But I am thinking of not doing that anymore since I can be still defeated by 6* teams and drawn with 5* teams sometimes. That's what I tried to say in the previous post.
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    I would say my opinion on this matter but as I am tanking with my second team, I worry that top11 eleven police will arrest me

    ps. just to be serious, hardly I can, but I have proposed to have a 20% quality reduction when you do not qualify to next level and only 10% reduction when you are qualifying
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    This thread become a tribune to make some people the gods ( token buyers ) and others the devils . Pointless ....

    It 's since 4 years there is threads to accuse tankers to cheaters or other words ....

    Game is full of haters and moaners , always complaining about things , the game constantly change and intelligent people always try to adapt and always a new subject to complain .... boring forum

    Must have and only way to play this game for some closed minded people ...
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    Well, tanking is cheap way of power training... I did tank last season cause I got heavily trolled in the season before... Now, even if I would like to tank another season, I can't, cause there is 5 bots and one very weak player in the league... I have 10 players with over 100 kg weight and I'm on the top of the table lol...
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    Heavy balls your players have :P
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