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    I did something completely wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by k1tb View Post
    I did something completely wrong?

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    No, you used a recognised counter to that formation. But, it is further evidence that 4W defences are no longer as effective against a narrow attacking formation as they once were. I tend to use 3N-1-4-2 or 3N-1-5-1 (depending on opponent strengths) against 4-2-1-3 and get better results even against stronger teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by talisman View Post
    No, you used a recognised counter to that formation. But, it is further evidence that 4W defences are no longer as effective against a narrow attacking formation as they once were. I tend to use 3N-1-4-2 or 3N-1-5-1 (depending on opponent strengths) against 4-2-1-3 and get better results even against stronger teams.
    Then I should use 3N DC against even 2 attackers? Works better than 3W defensive players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by k1tb View Post
    Then I should use 3N DC against even 2 attackers? Works better than 3W defensive players?
    It looks like nowadays if you're faced with a narrow xMC-AMC-xST formation then better results are obtained by using a 3N-DMC-2/3MC defence, and putting wide midfielders (ML/MR or AML/AMR) in to counter any wide defenders the opponent has. If the opponent is narrow in attack but has wide midfielders then the wide defenders (DL/DR or DML/DMR) are still needed. That is my current thinking based on experience with my own team and analysis of results for the rest of the matches in the League.
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    Quote Originally Posted by talisman View Post
    It looks like nowadays.......................................... .................................................. .............
    it looks like nowadays, almost every second game oppo GK makes 5-6 saves in a match with a rate of 8 and our GK 0-1 with a low rate, so I don't know with this factor we can recognize if a formation works or not.
    Old times, 5-6 saves in a game was very rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloverfield View Post
    Low ratings indeed.
    I would recommend not to use 451v against formations that attack solely through the middle.

    Prefer to boost your middle part of your tactics.

    Go for something like 3dc-1-3mc-2w-1.

    It works better.
    As talisman said 4 defenders even with 1 dmc seem not to work fine with narrow-middle formations.

    Try the suggestions and check if it works better.

    For me it really does the difference (and I am a fan of 451v as well )

    I counter above formation with 3dc-1-2mc-3w-1 to take advantage the lack of oppo's dm
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