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no wonder i lost to underdog (about 80%) in final champion league last season that was ripped my treble target.
im not bother so much to check their individual player ability because i was marked as favorite and i thought i could win it easily with right formation.
but i actually lost. i only remember he is asian
Well now you know where to look for.. but do not speculate.. you may have lost by a fair manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by adifairus
Asians are not all scums.
So better not to blame with speculations.
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Originally Posted by Cloverfield
Hmm a great way to escape %20 drop on qualities as well. Just pump up a specific skill with same drill all the way. Well %20 drop will certainly happen if promoted but mutant will remain mutant after it loses from %3000 - 1/5 = %2400
Hmm. As suggested by many , a cap should be integrated which is limited by lit skills' overall if not all. Second of all current mutants should be reformed to reflect that overall which means those mutant skills will return to 50 or so at max.
Finally, drilling the same training set should have a diminishing effect on training's outcome so that people would not be willing to initiate such regimes at all.
Well, let put my post from season 97 here (where it belong).
I dont know why did I start playing this game again. They shall never fix this game. I won 2 league games against same team (2:6 & 6:1). I saw what he is doing and I knew that it will be troll in Cup final. Troll is that his team is 40% weaker but he has players with trained fitness to over 1000%, strength over 600% and speed over 300%, everything else is on 1% quality. Will they ever fix that? Are you guys (managers, moderators, admins) know something more about this troll? He is not even watched cup final game (is that why he troll me: not watching, and why).
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This are his players:
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This are league games we played:
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This thing gets out of our hand, is any fix on its way?
Admins? Anyone?
@MNK Kaskada
How did you win him in League ?
Is he was tanking ?
I would perhaps have more sympathy if he had a team in the normal high quality range of say 120-140%. 173%!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MNK Kaskada
173% is my team, didn't play this game for 5 seasons. Level 63 so I have a lot of greens. Do you think it's posible to play with team 120% at this level, you don't know how it goes at highest levels [emoji17] So I invest my nerves in that 173% (not money), and you think it's fair. FYQuote:
Originally Posted by rogerniceguy
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He is not tanking, he is second.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
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So this trick didn't help him in League.Quote:
I won 2 league games against same team (2:6 & 6:1)
Collecting info - lol
Last weekend we played vs a mutant asso group.
This player is good in League too
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Didn't play = tank exploit I guess. I just wonder what your league opponents feel. Are you top of league unbeaten. What's the next highest % in your league and average. I guess multiple tanking has made life easier? Realistic?Quote:
Originally Posted by MNK Kaskada
I sympathise with regards to the mutant players though as faced them in associations. Basically means usain bolt and mo farah are better than Ronaldo at football.
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You mister are a newbie in this game. I had 160% team when I quit the game and my players got only 10% exstra. It's not tanking because my players are 28 years old. Can you understand that. It's style of playing on my server and my level, they all play that way. I am keeping my team untill they are 32, 5 more seasons in that time I shall have enough green to make a new competitive team.Quote:
Originally Posted by rogerniceguy
Tanking is when I have young players and tank them from 100% to 160%. I never tank, for me it was 45 season 45 level, then I quit for one month, next quiting was last 5 seasons. It's not tanking from 160% to 170%. Check my team galery to understand how does it goes. If you still don't understand then quit the game and stop embarasing yourself.
And you should know that you can't win treble by playing only league, you have to compete in Cup and CL. In my case that means 3 level above my team forever. When I started playing it was 20 level clubs against my club in Cup, but you are newbie and you don't understand that or you don't want to. Since I am 3-4 levels below highest level I always play CL with those teams.
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You think you saying I should quit the game will make me quit lol. Ok pal. Look don't take it personally ok. Didn't mean to upset you okay. It's just sad the state of the game with mutant players and tanking (I am excluding you from that if you are saying you are not a tanker).Quote:
Originally Posted by MNK Kaskada
Oh and for a newbie who has played over a year (level 16 or 17 lost count. Never tanked btw) I have quite a few trebles so yeah I know how the game works.
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Maybe you'll consider me as a newbie as well. But sorry: I completely disagree when you call that loss a troll. His victory is deserved: you only had 1 shot on target and you lost. That's just fair. If you people consider that because you have better side on paper, the game should grace you with 100% victories, we just do not have the same definition of what playing a game is. Otherwise, we would just compare % and that'd be it: there will be no more game. It would be called maths.Quote:
Originally Posted by MNK Kaskada
I remember you believe in stars mate? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gizzmo
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Yes but consider the quality difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
If it to be >30% quality in order to level them up , this means that mutant team are 2 stars ahead.
I think the unfair of this result is that he was facing a mutant team.Quote:
Originally Posted by gizzmo
Mutant teams seem with this trick to be 1,5 star at least, although their overall quality does not show that.
Also they have achieved this consuming much less resources than you will.
So this is unfair, and it is unrealistic on terms that a wrong training on paper, results to be the ideal one.
I would expect input from admins here, not if they are looking on it, but if they are working on A FIX on it,
If there is no fix, they should tell us.
Why I shouldn't train my players in same way if Nordeus believes it is fair?
I checked my cup final with second team, almost same scenario. My treble chance is ruined.
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Ok, this is diferent. But still 220% in attack and all of his players are weaker than mine. He is winning treble master.
Nordeus should bring back rules about atributes from old version. There was limit between attack and defence atributes. Sorry my bad english, I hope you understand what I wanted to say.
@Cloverfield, you explained nice.
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Aha, there was a limit of distance between the better group and the worst groups of skills (attack, defense and his&ment.) that was of AvQ +20 as max. so this means a +80%.Quote:
Originally Posted by MNK Kaskada
Here in the last pic the player have 42% defence so in equal terms the limit for at-phis&ment should be 122%.
Agree ofc. in this point.
Lots of problems in the game. Mutant players a big issue. Tanking also a big issue. Come on nordeus sort it out. We shouldn't see individual players with individual skills over 500%. Nor should we see tanking teams over a certain overall % sweeping all before them. There needs to be some fairness in the game.
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There is also problem with 1% quality players, it's not clear what does it mean. For example on my level 335q is 100%, but 1% is 310q and below that, so 1% is 290q (<310q) - it should be -80%. I can see a big problem with that.
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You can see it exactly like that on IOS version. I believe Nordeus trying to tell you cannot afford to see it [emoji41] (Just kidding). Kidding aside, Android version is also glitchy (sometimes when you click on a player it shows 200+, which never happens on IOS version).Quote:
Originally Posted by MNK Kaskada
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0% actually is the line to win the 1*, so 1% represent the attributes that are 1*+1% and less than this %.Quote:
Originally Posted by MNK Kaskada
We need to keep campaigning for change. Eliminate mutant players. Also tanking for me which seems to divide some. Clear to me though it has no place in a realistic football game and has ruined associations
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You are not allowed to buy a player 180% (and it's understandable why) but you are allowed to train a player and give him 5000% to one skill,all the other skills at 1% and here comes the madness,this kind of players are shi**** on the normal skewed players..
I've been playing this game for quite a long time and i have no hope that something not working will be fixed quickly,they just don't give a f*** about the issues that affect us,the players and that's a fact.
Never experienced the issue myself but I think this is something to fix with a matter of urgency.
Hey everyone,
As an update, we're continuing to work on players with elevated stats. I will share news when I have it, but it should be soon.
For how long? I want to try it on creativity hehe...Quote:
Originally Posted by SausyFC
Don't make a pact with the devil ever =) (in other words don't try it)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pangihutan Manik
Which problem? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MNK Kaskada
I have seen also 0 (zero) star players in associations, usually from -60% avg quality and beyond that
Thanks for popping in to reassure us. Sometimes that's all we need. A quick word to say we are aware and working on a solutionQuote:
Originally Posted by SausyFC
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Could you also look at tanking. It's ruining associations and also ruining league integrity. Perhaps consider blanket 20% team reduction for all. Also redistribute some association tokens to leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by SausyFC
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but to train any player beyond 180% in any skill is really hard how do they get thousands high?Quote:
Originally Posted by jarharnamme
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im sure they will look into it but also implement your recommendations lord justice roger 🤥[emoji38]Quote:
Originally Posted by rogerniceguy
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Lol yes we will still be here in 3 years with the same old unrealistic rubbish. Why do we bother eh? Seems we care more than the game makers themselvesQuote:
Originally Posted by RedManc7
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Lord justice could be my new team name. Bow before me lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by RedManc7
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Sure I do. It's miles better to have the best team starwise. Like it's better to be Barça or Real when we want to win the CL. But you do not have the guarantee to win whatsoever, even when you are the best. And that's why we love games !Quote:
Originally Posted by Antonio Gustavo Hernandez
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Other players same stats. Other association teams even worst, speed and physics 800-900
Well these players are not so out balanced, so they are fresh in this.
Of course many managers as there is no official answer on this of how it will be tackled, they will pump their mutant players.
And why not?
