Nordeus, please, stop making your updates which ruin the gameplay!!!

[a.gavrilin]

Hi Giorgo,

Sorry to double post the same reply but I still want to continue this thread as I still think it has nothing to do with myths but it's a problem which must be solved and I want other opinions to be heard

So don't you think this is somehow strange or weird that under absolutely the same conditions and with the same players you easily win the first match 6-0 and then in 3 days lose 3-4 (losing originally 0-3). What has changed in this case from your point of view? I simply want to understand the game mechanic and how the engine works. We are now talking about game code which has no personal preferences so under exactly the same conditions the result must be +/- the same - at least it should be a victory of my team, but not 6-0 and 0-3 as it is originally. We all know that such results happen in FA matches a lot but it was proven many times that FA engine differs from the engine of the main game.

[pcmacdaniel]

Sorry to double post the same reply but I still want to continue this thread as I still think it has nothing to do with myths but it's a problem which must be solved and I want other opinions to be heard

So don't you think this is somehow strange or weird that under absolutely the same conditions and with the same players you easily win the first match 6-0 and then in 3 days lose 3-4 (losing originally 0-3). What has changed in this case from your point of view? I simply want to understand the game mechanic and how the engine works. We are now talking about game code which has no personal preferences so under exactly the same conditions the result must be +/- the same - at least it should be a victory of my team, but not 6-0 and 0-3 as it is originally. We all know that such results happen in FA matches a lot but it was proven many times that FA engine differs from the engine of the main game.

Is your opponent active?

If he is active, then it's expected that the opponent may change tactics between the two legs. Even if the formation stays the same, the orders might change. Typically in FA matches (in higher leagues) where managers are more active, this is the case! I saw it plenty of times recently while my association was in Gold 1, when my team ran off 22 consecutive victories. First leg we would win like 4-1, 5-0 of so frequently, then 2nd leg it would be like 2-1. One time we played the same association two weekends in a row, against the same opponent; scores in order were 7-0, 2-1, 3-2 (trailed 0-2), 4-1. The opponent changes something every time. Used same formation for the first three meetings, then changed formation for the 4th. He was only level 4, so it was easier to figure out what he changed tactically than say if a higher level manager with more experience was managing. But this game engine is largely tactical I believe, and the person managing against you, they will change stuff if active, and even subtle changes could make a big difference.

The definition of insanity is, "to always do the same thing and expect a different result."

[a.gavrilin]

Is your opponent active?

If he is active, then it's expected that the opponent may change tactics between the two legs. Even if the formation stays the same, the orders might change. Typically in FA matches (in higher leagues) where managers are more active, this is the case! I saw it plenty of times recently while my association was in Gold 1, when my team ran off 22 consecutive victories. First leg we would win like 4-1, 5-0 of so frequently, then 2nd leg it would be like 2-1. One time we played the same association two weekends in a row, against the same opponent; scores in order were 7-0, 2-1, 3-2 (trailed 0-2), 4-1. The opponent changes something every time. Used same formation for the first three meetings, then changed formation for the 4th. He was only level 4, so it was easier to figure out what he changed tactically than say if a higher level manager with more experience was managing. But this game engine is largely tactical I believe, and the person managing against you, they will change stuff if active, and even subtle changes could make a big difference.

The definition of insanity is, "to always do the same thing and expect a different result."

That is what I actually mentioned as the first thing - the opponent is not active, most probably he is a bot. I play in the same league with him and currently he is #12. I checked all his games in the league and in the cup and he never appears on the games so I can come to the conclusion he is not playing at all.

I wouldn't compare these games with the games in FA as I'm pretty sure the game engine differs a lot. So the systems that work perfectly in simply league or cup matches don't work in FA. Which is more I try not to play both matches in FA with the same system as most often when you win the first match you will most probably lose the second when no changes are made from your side or from the side of your opponent.