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    The new skill cap

    Quote Originally Posted by nash123 View Post
    Nik, just a stupid idea, but what if in this case creativity matters?

    Or... what if SA works better, if important Skills are low (f.e. Header works better with low heading )?
    Could be. We exactly should ask Tom if he kept the details, he had a star player, Chojak, played with him almost since we were at level 2 or 3, he was like Costa, even when he was 5* were almost scoring all the goals of his team, even I was stronger, my GKs always conceded, he had a FK SA, what I remember about him is he had a creativity skill above other skills and some of his skills were 1%. I had a star player with FK too, Dean Way, I always trained him balanced, he was very good too, but not much that like Chojak, I mean I was training Dean Way to 7* and 8*, he was playing like a real star, but Chojak was doing this at 5* and Tom was putting him as a ST, was always scoring more than his AMR/AMLs. I didn't keep the details of Way, but if Tom did it we may ask.

    Or maybe he was way more better internal talented player than Way, I don't know..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonio Gustavo Hernandez View Post
    Could be. We exactly should ask Tom if he kept the details, he had a star player, Chojak, played with him almost since we were at level 2 or 3, he was like Costa, even when he was 5* were almost scoring all the goals of his team, even I was stronger, my GKs always conceded, he had a FK SA, what I remember about him is he had a creativity skill above other skills and some of his skills were 1%. I had a star player with FK too, Dean Way, I always trained him balanced, he was very good too, but not much that like Chojak, I mean I was training Dean Way to 7* and 8*, he was playing like a real star, but Chojak was doing this at 5* and Tom was putting him as a ST, was always scoring more than his AMR/AMLs. I didn't keep the details of Way, but if Tom did it we may ask.

    Or maybe he was way more better internal talented player than Way, I don't know..

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    I studied chojak a lot. And I mean a lot. I think a lot was internal tbh. Having said that he also played for a great manager who trained him well and played in a way 2 suit him. The fk sa helped. Think of cantona managed by sir Alex lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonio Gustavo Hernandez View Post
    Could be. We exactly should ask Tom if he kept the details, he had a star player, Chojak, played with him almost since we were at level 2 or 3, he was like Costa, even when he was 5* were almost scoring all the goals of his team, even I was stronger, my GKs always conceded, he had a FK SA, what I remember about him is he had a creativity skill above other skills and some of his skills were 1%. I had a star player with FK too, Dean Way, I always trained him balanced, he was very good too, but not much that like Chojak, I mean I was training Dean Way to 7* and 8*, he was playing like a real star, but Chojak was doing this at 5* and Tom was putting him as a ST, was always scoring more than his AMR/AMLs. I didn't keep the details of Way, but if Tom did it we may ask.

    Or maybe he was way more better internal talented player than Way, I don't know..

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    Chojak was an amazing player that carried my team for many seasons, and holds games played, goals, and assist records for my team that will never be broken. RIP Chojak. He was a pure ST only, and he did have FK SA. In his prime he was a FK ace, but I always enjoyed the goals off corner kicks he scored. His strongest skill was Heading, followed by creativity, passing, shooting. Wish I could take credit for something special I did to him, but I generally trained all his white skills. By 23-24, he'd played so many seasons that his grey skills dropped to 1%, but he kept playing great. As called out in the thread, I think Chojak had internal talent that could not be seen, and perhaps his talent was enhanced by his white skill strengths.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqltom View Post
    Chojak was an amazing player that carried my team for many seasons, and holds games played, goals, and assist records for my team that will never be broken. RIP Chojak. He was a pure ST only, and he did have FK SA. In his prime he was a FK ace, but I always enjoyed the goals off corner kicks he scored. His strongest skill was Heading, followed by creativity, passing, shooting. Wish I could take credit for something special I did to him, but I generally trained all his white skills. By 23-24, he'd played so many seasons that his grey skills dropped to 1%, but he kept playing great. As called out in the thread, I think Chojak had internal talent that could not be seen, and perhaps his talent was enhanced by his white skill strengths.


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    Also enhanced by his manager sending him on special spa breaks lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogerniceguy View Post
    Also enhanced by his manager sending him on special spa breaks lol

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    It does not work mate. I sent Way, Hamadou and Bassi's father (my former 3 star players) to Thailand and paid all their expenses after got the first +3 Cup, they came demoralized lol Maybe they had private problems, I do not know lol.

    @Tom; Mine situation is same pal, never got a player like Way after him, his records are unique too. Nordeus should give both of us a mixture of Chojak and Way, an internal talented MC-AMC-ST player with FK lol. By the way, wasn't Chojak a rec?

    @Alessio; Do not waste your time with this smartass, I bet he has never had a player beyond 7*.

    Plus only ones complain in this thread are Alessio and Nash, and they have logical reasons. Also, I bet the most principled person is Roger in this thread and he also has players of which some attributes are beyond 300%. As I remember Chojak also had some attributes beyond 300%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonio Gustavo Hernandez View Post
    It does not work mate. I sent Way, Hamadou and Bassi's father (my former 3 star players) to Thailand and paid all their expenses after got the first +3 Cup, they came demoralized lol Maybe they had private problems, I do not know lol.

    @Tom; Mine situation is same pal, never got a player like Way after him, his records are unique too. Nordeus should give both of us a mixture of Chojak and Way, an internal talented MC-AMC-ST player with FK lol. By the way, wasn't Chojak a rec?

    @Alessio; Do not waste your time with this smartass, I bet he has never had a player beyond 7*.

    Plus only ones complain in this thread are Alessio and Nash, and they have logical reasons. Also, I bet the most principled person is Roger in this thread and he also has players of which some attributes are beyond 300%. As I remember Chojak also had some attributes beyond 300%.
    Thanks Antonio. I am a big believer in fair play and the game being played the right way. Anyway getting back to topic my principles break the skills debate into the following categories;

    Exploit - those who seek to abuse faults in the programming. Move players through different teams. Train only 1 or 2 physical drills 2 end up with a player who has say 1000+ speed and fitness with 1% all other skills. These are not footballers and are what are referred to as mutants. I will not generalise to say where these users may be based as not fair to do so.

    Genuine advantage seekers - I would class myself and many others in this. Active competitive managers who enjoy the game watch lots of videos. Some buy some tokens (not me) and study the game to seek an edge. For example, I would buy 2 or 3 18yo beginning of each season and power train using conserved greens from videos. I train them to say 120% within week 1 and they end season close to 140%. Season 2 I may use another 50 greens on such players. Due to how the players lose skills and also due to the power training where I may use similar drills (ie. Pass go shoot for attacking players), these players may end up at age 21 with a number of 1% skills and say 3 skills (passing shooting speed) above 300%. I like strikers and wingers to be able pass have pace and shoot. Sounds reasonable. I do agree nordeus perhaps need to tinker with the skills and training somewhere so things don't drop to 1%. But that is for them to solve not me.

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