Season 39

[Ljepoje]

4-1-4-1 counters the narrow diamond, especially if its ML/MR are motivated.

Nah, I don´t belive in counterformations. Also, I´ve been beating 4-1-4-1 formations in the CL & CUP with my 4-1-2-1-2. But the main point wasn´t that I lost - it was how/the way I lost. The commentary board didn´t make any sense at all. It didn´t even specife the players that scored/took the free-kicks/corners... It kept switching inbetween the sentences.

'I've never experienced anything like this. But fu*k it, it wanted me to lose and I lost my first league game for the season

[July Fourth]

Nah, I don´t belive in counterformations. Also, I´ve been beating 4-1-4-1 formations in the CL & CUP with my 4-1-2-1-2. But the main point wasn´t that I lost - it was how/the way I lost. The commentary board didn´t make any sense at all. It didn´t even specife the players that scored/took the free-kicks/corners... It kept switching inbetween the sentences.

'I've never experienced anything like this. But fu*k it, it wanted me to lose and I lost my first league game for the season

I've had games like this with my power trained squad, drew a number of games in the league in the last 4 seasons and I even lost 2-1 last season in a league game and had about 20 games where I won by the odd goal. so it means in the last 4 seasons about 80% of my games have been confortable wins in the league with about 15% being close wins and 5% of games being fail.

But when your 10-15Q above most of the rest of the teams in your league you tend not to need the counter formations as they are mainly recommended for weaker teams facing stronger opposition.

[Morgan O'Bree]

The sole fact that 4-1-4-1 counters diamond is idiotic. In the end it differs not much from 4-4-2 which is countered by diamond itself. Let alone that a single striker vs 4 men should be riddiccoulous. another sample is that the counter to 4-5-1 is 3-5-2. Basically makes no sense as you play with one less defender. And an extra st just how can overcome a 4-back plainly? To me is senseless. Like playing with 4-3-2-1 wide vs a 3 dc defense and not having your wings do a sigle action. To me: crap.

[July Fourth]

The sole fact that 4-1-4-1 counters diamond is idiotic. In the end it differs not much from 4-4-2 which is countered by diamond itself. Let alone that a single striker vs 4 men should be riddiccoulous. another sample is that the counter to 4-5-1 is 3-5-2. Basically makes no sense as you play with one less defender. And an extra st just how can overcome a 4-back plainly? To me is senseless. Like playing with 4-3-2-1 wide vs a 3 dc defense and not having your wings do a sigle action. To me: crap.

Lol... lets not forget that 4-4-2 Classic COUNTERS 4-2-3-1 on this game!!!

Basically counter formations are rock, paper, scissors on Top Eleven.

[kullehh]

i won 0 : 2 against 1* abandoned team , my free kick specialist losst his 52th free kick in a row i got sick of complaining no one cares

[dv8r]

I'm starting to think counter formations are a hoax!!

I lost with butterfly, 4-5-1v AND 4-1-2-1-2 in the cup against the 4-4-2 classic. Twice against a weaker team.

Just use your best team, that's all I can say.

[Bermudo]

comfortably won my league game 4-0, no injuries today, so injury count this season still at 7. Combined with the 8-0 in the CL game before, it was a good day, if an unimportant one.

My CL group rival made a draw against the weakest team, so it looks like I will win the CL group if I can win against that team. Its very defensive, my first match against the team was 2-1 only, but I SHOULD win. But otoh, my rival should have won against him, too. If I draw, it depends on the number of goals my rival can score against the other trash team.

Tomorrow are two important matches, a game against place 2 in the league with slightly better average quality, and a cup game against a friended player, again with slightly better quality. Fortunately, my two injured players will be ready again tomorrow. I probably need more green packs to survive that day, I hope I get some more vids in addition to friendlys and presents from friends.

[Chris Rath]

The sole fact that 4-1-4-1 counters diamond is idiotic. In the end it differs not much from 4-4-2 which is countered by diamond itself. Let alone that a single striker vs 4 men should be riddiccoulous. another sample is that the counter to 4-5-1 is 3-5-2. Basically makes no sense as you play with one less defender. And an extra st just how can overcome a 4-back plainly? To me is senseless. Like playing with 4-3-2-1 wide vs a 3 dc defense and not having your wings do a sigle action. To me: crap.

The key at 4-1-4-1 is the DMC, who gives the center more stability. That is where 4-1-2-1-2 focuses the attack (if played in a normal way). And with the offensive motivated wingers (as July described), you can play nice counter attacks. I made very good experiences with it against 4-1-2-1-2, too.
But if it is a counter formation, I don't know. There is more the match engine considers. Sometimes I noticed special ability players can turn the outcome of a match completely besides the famous random effects. :s

I'm starting to think counter formations are a hoax!!

I lost with butterfly, 4-5-1v AND 4-1-2-1-2 in the cup against the 4-4-2 classic. Twice against a weaker team.

Just use your best team, that's all I can say.

I had problems with 4-5-1V as well against 4-4-2 in the CL some days ago (won luckily by standards), but I believe it was no normal 4-4-2, but a motivated one.

[July Fourth]

League Round 9 Preview: HONDA 2 (101.8) vs July Fourth (107.7)

July Fourth travel to Russia is what is possibly undoubtably our toughest fixture of the season to play HONDA 2 who have a active manager and has improved his average by 1 point since the beginning of the season and has watched the majority of his games this season, we have a 3 point advantage over HONDA 2 after they lost 3-0 yesterday against FC Mimonos. HONDA 2's prefered formation is a 4-2N-1-2W-1 and there main players consist of Gareth Bale, Cristiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney... But who needs them when you have Kevin Mensah, Stacey Papaleo and Michu. A win for July Fourth should move us 6 points clear and into control in the league this season, but a defeat here will mean HONDA 2 will draw level with us at the top and Thai Team 5 points behind and a reinforced FC Mimonos who have bought 2 scout defenders in the last 2 days who will also be 5 points behind.

Team News: Chuck Norris and Hatsune Miku are both out injured for July Fourth and Mensah is back from suspension.

ODDS: HONDA 2 9/2, Draw 5/2, July Fourth 8/13.

[Ljepoje]

I've had games like this with my power trained squad, drew a number of games in the league in the last 4 seasons and I even lost 2-1 last season in a league game and had about 20 games where I won by the odd goal. so it means in the last 4 seasons about 80% of my games have been confortable wins in the league with about 15% being close wins and 5% of games being fail.

But when your 10-15Q above most of the rest of the teams in your league you tend not to need the counter formations as they are mainly recommended for weaker teams facing stronger opposition.

Yeah, but the funny part is that I´ve been playing against this guy for 3 seasons (both league and cl) and I´ve beaten him like 7 of 8 times (despite if I use 442 diamond, classic or 4-1-4-1 my self). He is playing the 4-1-4-1 formation for 3 seasons now and It´s like "his" thing.

He managed to beat the group leader in his CL group (E) a couple of minutes of go, so I will probably have the honor to avoid him in the knockout stage