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    Wow this game really sucks right now. Drew 1 1 in league. Me 124% v 87% non present opponent. My gk injured near the end after my final sub just to add insult to injury. I was 2nd v 3rd (yes it's a weak league). League seems to ignore quality altogether.

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    Solid start to the season. Although, not many potential hiccups normally, during the first couple of weeks, the difficulty level will rev up to another gear come on Thursday.
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    Associations is infuriating. We did win 1st, and ended the weekend at 1550 points which is very good. My games were 2-2 and 7-1 in the semi's (more on this later). 2-0 and 1-1 in the finals. Nordeus have buffed correct tactics in the game engine, so players with mutants or a big quality advantage are losing more often. I doubt many care about mutants struggling, that's probably a welcome change. However, a 125% scout buyer shouldn't be having a bunch of trouble with a 90% free player, and if this is nordeus solution to fixing the mutant problem, they risk alienating the scout buyers. That said, if a manager knows how to setup correctly tactical, they should still do very well. Associations is largely frustrating because most associations have to have a pretty good idea about tactics to reach and perform well in the platinum division, so getting the tactics correct against them is difficult. If skills/quality matter significantly less, it'll frequently be a dogfight, unless playing against Morons with Mutants.

    The semi-final was irritating because I was a 24% favorite against an opponent with 14 players. I have several players that are well-trained (key stats above 200%, with a few above 300%). This was especially true for my AML, AMR and ST. But opponent was playing a 5-3w-2 normal or attack/flanks/long/off/high. I expected a defense + counters approach with that tactic, as a 24% underdog. But it didn't happen, and I found myself down 0-1 @ 60' when I finally worked out the bulk of the opposing managers settings. I just couldn't wrap my head around the idea the opponent had counter-attacks OFF in this situation. Rallied to take 2-1 lead, before leaking equalizer at 89'. Still shouldn't have struggled so much w/ incorrect tactics considering the quality advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcmacdaniel View Post
    Solid start to the season. Although, not many potential hiccups normally, during the first couple of weeks, the difficulty level will rev up to another gear come on Thursday.
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    Associations is infuriating. We did win 1st, and ended the weekend at 1550 points which is very good. My games were 2-2 and 7-1 in the semi's (more on this later). 2-0 and 1-1 in the finals. Nordeus have buffed correct tactics in the game engine, so players with mutants or a big quality advantage are losing more often. I doubt many care about mutants struggling, that's probably a welcome change. However, a 125% scout buyer shouldn't be having a bunch of trouble with a 90% free player, and if this is nordeus solution to fixing the mutant problem, they risk alienating the scout buyers. That said, if a manager knows how to setup correctly tactical, they should still do very well. Associations is largely frustrating because most associations have to have a pretty good idea about tactics to reach and perform well in the platinum division, so getting the tactics correct against them is difficult. If skills/quality matter significantly less, it'll frequently be a dogfight, unless playing against Morons with Mutants.

    The semi-final was irritating because I was a 24% favorite against an opponent with 14 players. I have several players that are well-trained (key stats above 200%, with a few above 300%). This was especially true for my AML, AMR and ST. But opponent was playing a 5-3w-2 normal or attack/flanks/long/off/high. I expected a defense + counters approach with that tactic, as a 24% underdog. But it didn't happen, and I found myself down 0-1 @ 60' when I finally worked out the bulk of the opposing managers settings. I just couldn't wrap my head around the idea the opponent had counter-attacks OFF in this situation. Rallied to take 2-1 lead, before leaking equalizer at 89'. Still shouldn't have struggled so much w/ incorrect tactics considering the quality advantage.
    Agree very little seems to matter this season. Quality or tactics wise. More random than ever. So in nerfing mutants they are pretty much killing all active players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcmacdaniel View Post
    Solid start to the season. Although, not many potential hiccups normally, during the first couple of weeks, the difficulty level will rev up to another gear come on Thursday.
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    Associations is infuriating. We did win 1st, and ended the weekend at 1550 points which is very good. My games were 2-2 and 7-1 in the semi's (more on this later). 2-0 and 1-1 in the finals. Nordeus have buffed correct tactics in the game engine, so players with mutants or a big quality advantage are losing more often. I doubt many care about mutants struggling, that's probably a welcome change. However, a 125% scout buyer shouldn't be having a bunch of trouble with a 90% free player, and if this is nordeus solution to fixing the mutant problem, they risk alienating the scout buyers. That said, if a manager knows how to setup correctly tactical, they should still do very well. Associations is largely frustrating because most associations have to have a pretty good idea about tactics to reach and perform well in the platinum division, so getting the tactics correct against them is difficult. If skills/quality matter significantly less, it'll frequently be a dogfight, unless playing against Morons with Mutants.

    The semi-final was irritating because I was a 24% favorite against an opponent with 14 players. I have several players that are well-trained (key stats above 200%, with a few above 300%). This was especially true for my AML, AMR and ST. But opponent was playing a 5-3w-2 normal or attack/flanks/long/off/high. I expected a defense + counters approach with that tactic, as a 24% underdog. But it didn't happen, and I found myself down 0-1 @ 60' when I finally worked out the bulk of the opposing managers settings. I just couldn't wrap my head around the idea the opponent had counter-attacks OFF in this situation. Rallied to take 2-1 lead, before leaking equalizer at 89'. Still shouldn't have struggled so much w/ incorrect tactics considering the quality advantage.
    Please what do you mean by mutants.

    On the other hand Nordeous seems to rank tactics high above quality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebu View Post
    Please what do you mean by mutants.

    On the other hand Nordeous seems to rank tactics high above quality

    Mutants are players with abnormally high white skills and abnormally low gray skills.
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    As for tactics, it's complicated. Basically, nordeus did something stupid that someone in a computer science/programming 101 course could potentially pickup on. Probably a better conversation for private message though since I don't want to risk future opponents reading the forum to learn my tactics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcmacdaniel View Post
    Mutants are players with abnormally high white skills and abnormally low gray skills.
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    As for tactics, it's complicated. Basically, nordeus did something stupid that someone in a computer science/programming 101 course could potentially pickup on. Probably a better conversation for private message though since I don't want to risk future opponents reading the forum to learn my tactics.
    Thanks

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    Disappointing league game today again. Me 1st vs 13th placed team in the league. Sometimes I don't understand the game. Everyone on full morale and full condition, 23% better team with skilled players vs not trained players. Anyone sees why I loose this game except "it was a lucky game for our rivals"?
    He wasn't even watching the game again. There was nothing I could do, I changed tactics everything after going down 1-3...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M View Post
    Disappointing league game today again. Me 1st vs 13th placed team in the league. Sometimes I don't understand the game. Everyone on full morale and full condition, 23% better team with skilled players vs not trained players. Anyone sees why I loose this game except "it was a lucky game for our rivals"?
    He wasn't even watching the game again. There was nothing I could do, I changed tactics everything after going down 1-3...

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    mannn... That sucks...
    It just happens sometimes, but not all the time...
    No explanation really... If u are lucky, it happens during not so important match, but if u are unlucky it may happen in final cup...
    I was beaten in final 5-1 against 30% weaker oppo with no manager appear... How that happened? No one knows...
    But I think it happens to make things more interesting and look so real lol...

    Luck is part of this game...
    But gotta agree with niko, skill player is more important in long term... Luck is once in a while... I finally learn to accept unfair defeats as it is part of the game...
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    What have you learned from last season?
    Never underestimate your opponent even he is much more weaker than your team.

    Where did you place last season?
    1st in the league, quarter-final CL and runner up in cup.

    Are you participating in the Association's Cup?
    Yes we are in the Gold 1 division
    What are your achievements in your Association?
    winning some important matches against better teams to get our team into final.

    What's your current level?
    3
    What's your budget for this season?
    about 10 milions
    Who do you want to replace?
    I want to replace all players which will fall down to the 4 star qualitty.
    What are your goals for this season?
    win the title which i´m going to make and try to win CL I am close to get into final.

    What's your training level?
    36
    Which will be your main formation?
    4-1-3-2 or 4-2-3-1

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    Please what do you mean by mutants.
    an interesting way of exploring the forum (so the game too), is to use the advanced search.
    It's in the upper right corner of the forum page.
    There, you put as key word
    "mutant" and it will give some threads with this word.
    Read them .
    The more, the better picture you 'll have about this case (and note only this).
    If you get the general idea, then you can make specific questions for some details you missed in the relative thread or post.
    That's a personal and friendly advice if you want to take advantage of the knowledge and experience of the forum members and go deeper in the game
    Καλώς ήρθατε στο Ελληνικό φόρουμ
    http://forum.topeleven.com/%CE%93%CE...%B4%CE%B1.html

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