Tactic still matter in this game

[khris]

Bro, everything is a illusion if u want to go deep... But now we can control even the dream itself. So what if i want to put him in st pos, he will perform well or not? Cause i got a much better player in the left wing...

What means much better? scores more? assists more? team plays more fluid? or u mean AvQ?

[ElDiablo89]

What means much better? scores more? assists more? team plays more fluid? or u mean AvQ?

Hmm, i got a ml with assist sa but same avq as my st/aml. But my dl is like well train in attack further than my dr so i kind of need my lefties focus more on defensive.

[khris]

Hmm, i got a ml with assist sa but same avq as my st/aml. But my dl is like well train in attack further than my dr so i kind of need my lefties focus more on defensive.

What if the 3 best contributors in your team are in the left side and thats all? and then in this situation you score and the DCs, DR and maybe some MCs +gk help in defense so, you don't need more?
The target is find a way to see the team playing fluid and the "most contributive players" doing their job. Really, it doesn't matter, if theres nobody in the right, or in the center. Only matters if what you have work.

If a player have the power to control al alone the match, it doesn't matter if he is a aml, a mc, or a st. Is a matter of power, If this gives you the dominance simply, the game will give you the control of matches without go for the right side.

Still you have some different options and thats good, if something dont work you can try the 2nd option just by switching players.

[ElDiablo89]

What if the 3 best contributors in your team are in the left side and thats all? and then in this situation you score and the DCs, DR and maybe some MCs +gk help in defense so, you don't need more?
The target is find a way to see the team playing fluid and the "most contributive players" doing their job. Really, it doesn't matter, if theres nobody in the right, or in the center. Only matters if what you have work.

If a player have the power to control al alone the match, it doesn't matter if he is a aml, a mc, or a st. Is a matter of power, If this gives you the dominance simply, the game will give you the control of matches without go for the right side.

Still you have some different options and thats good, if something dont work you can try the 2nd option just by switching players.

My team have a hardcore attack line with 2 st and 1 amr performance very well. They usually got 8. rating overall, sometimes 3 of my attackers got 9 or 10 p in the same match, like this season where I have 3 players in the top score and 2 in most assist. My defensive is good too, but I notice my dL is contributing more assists and goals far more than my dr so I put a lot of attack lessons in his hard training, so I build a ml with good def points and ass instead of buying an aml for exchange. It’s work for me so well till the last cl finals when I lost and miss my 3rd treble back to back...

[pcmacdaniel]

Tactic matters, I have to agree with the OP here. It's just what works best is determined by computer code instead of football logic.

It's also hard to properly run tests because
There is a lack of elite competition in the league, champions League and cup. Associations has elite competition but an optics problem.

[khris]

Tactic matters, I have to agree with the OP here. It's just what works best is determined by computer code instead of football logic.

It's also hard to properly run tests because
There is a lack of elite competition in the league, champions League and cup. Associations has elite competition but an optics problem.

"It's just what works best is determined by computer code instead of football logic."

"Equiliquá" lol is what Ive been defeining in resume, you need to have the viewpoint of "the code", not the one of logic, cause then happens what happens. xD

[talisman]

Six stages of Top Eleven result:

Win against higher-Quality opposition: "GET IN THERE!!!!!!"
Any other win: "Yay!!"
Draw: "OK..."
Lose against higher-Quality opposition: "C'est la vie..."
Lose against lower-Quality opposition: "WTF?"
Lose against much lower-Quality opposition: "TROLL!!!!!"

[ElDiablo89]

Lucky me i dont reach stage 5 yet 😂😂😂 its not like im never lost against a weaker team but all of it are according to my tactic...

[pcmacdaniel]

"It's just what works best is determined by computer code instead of football logic."

"Equiliquá" lol is what Ive been defeining in resume, you need to have the viewpoint of "the code", not the one of logic, cause then happens what happens. xD

Yup, I agree

I will add this, there are managers out there that understand what the game engine is coded to read. I suspect most of the top 100 understand it, but because of the optics issue (mutants, draw manipulation), several managers believe it pure cheat that gets those groups so high. Therefore anything tactical gets dismissed.

Regarding my association, we have a pretty good grasp on some of the relationships in the orders. Used it to finish last season slightly above 1800 points. Granted playing 7 associations that relegated to Gold 1 helped alot. 1600 - 1700, it's really rare to find a very strong tactical group below this season-ending point range in my experience. Isolated good managers do exist, but it's seldom 4+ deep with strong tacticans.

[madflo19]

If most of the top 100 asso managers have figured out how the engine works,they would've probably stopped using any loopholes of this game,but i don't see anything like this;