Tactic still matter in this game

[ElDiablo89]

What if the 3 best contributors in your team are in the left side and thats all? and then in this situation you score and the DCs, DR and maybe some MCs +gk help in defense so, you don't need more?
The target is find a way to see the team playing fluid and the "most contributive players" doing their job. Really, it doesn't matter, if theres nobody in the right, or in the center. Only matters if what you have work.

If a player have the power to control al alone the match, it doesn't matter if he is a aml, a mc, or a st. Is a matter of power, If this gives you the dominance simply, the game will give you the control of matches without go for the right side.

Still you have some different options and thats good, if something dont work you can try the 2nd option just by switching players.

My team have a hardcore attack line with 2 st and 1 amr performance very well. They usually got 8. rating overall, sometimes 3 of my attackers got 9 or 10 p in the same match, like this season where I have 3 players in the top score and 2 in most assist. My defensive is good too, but I notice my dL is contributing more assists and goals far more than my dr so I put a lot of attack lessons in his hard training, so I build a ml with good def points and ass instead of buying an aml for exchange. It’s work for me so well till the last cl finals when I lost and miss my 3rd treble back to back...

[talisman]

Guys i have a problem with my striker, help!! His position is st/aml and i give him a shadow strike sa. But when i put him in st position his sa dont show up when im playing, and when i put him in aml pos he got his sa worked well. So its like the sa shadow strike dont work on st pos or im just having bad luck? Btw he perform well in both postions too.

The Shadow Striker SA is really appliable to AM- players. If you played your ST/AML at AML then his SA should light up when the scores from that position. ST SA is 1-on-1 Scorer or Penalty Kick.

[ElDiablo89]

The Shadow Striker SA is really appliable to AM- players. If you played your ST/AML at AML then his SA should light up when the scores from that position. ST SA is 1-on-1 Scorer or Penalty Kick.

Yeah I know that, I will keep playing him as st pos, hope 1 day it’s will light up when he score

[IImaestroII]

Yoiu've written the solution really. lol

I said in the previous comment

"All is a big illusion. "

Because;
Is not your tactic, is the tactic that the game chose to work in X situation.

And is not the player you want, is the player that the game wants.

All is visual in TE, and the job of a manager is discover and test, and find what works.

Then, what if a team is set by default to work with Hard attack? and fail deeply with normal mentality?...
This creates a effect, these calibrations makes people think they have the key formation, or key orders or key of something, and then we've seen here in the forum loads of managers coming with a magical tactic, but, in the end, is not what they found, is what the game has set by default to work in a particular team.

Meditate about it

Khris i can understand what you are saying but i belelieve that if you understand how the engine works and apply some logic on what u are doing you can get what you want, actually with my tactic ( i posted it on fb is not a secret) i'm getting the "output" i want with the imput that i gave like for ex. i want my amc to score , i want my aml to score etc...is not 100% visual. I already played with varoius shapes and of course they all have their weakness, is up to the manager make some tweaks
->("Is not your tactic, is the tactic that the game chose to work in X situation") he is the tactic ,is up to the manager uderstand in what X situation his tactic gonna work, and make some changes or little tweaks to work against that X situation.

[pcmacdaniel]

Tactic matters, I have to agree with the OP here. It's just what works best is determined by computer code instead of football logic.

It's also hard to properly run tests because
There is a lack of elite competition in the league, champions League and cup. Associations has elite competition but an optics problem.

[khris]

Tactic matters, I have to agree with the OP here. It's just what works best is determined by computer code instead of football logic.

It's also hard to properly run tests because
There is a lack of elite competition in the league, champions League and cup. Associations has elite competition but an optics problem.

"It's just what works best is determined by computer code instead of football logic."

"Equiliquá" lol is what Ive been defeining in resume, you need to have the viewpoint of "the code", not the one of logic, cause then happens what happens. xD

[talisman]

Six stages of Top Eleven result:

Win against higher-Quality opposition: "GET IN THERE!!!!!!"
Any other win: "Yay!!"
Draw: "OK..."
Lose against higher-Quality opposition: "C'est la vie..."
Lose against lower-Quality opposition: "WTF?"
Lose against much lower-Quality opposition: "TROLL!!!!!"

[ElDiablo89]

Lucky me i dont reach stage 5 yet 😂😂😂 its not like im never lost against a weaker team but all of it are according to my tactic...

[pcmacdaniel]

"It's just what works best is determined by computer code instead of football logic."

"Equiliquá" lol is what Ive been defeining in resume, you need to have the viewpoint of "the code", not the one of logic, cause then happens what happens. xD

Yup, I agree

I will add this, there are managers out there that understand what the game engine is coded to read. I suspect most of the top 100 understand it, but because of the optics issue (mutants, draw manipulation), several managers believe it pure cheat that gets those groups so high. Therefore anything tactical gets dismissed.

Regarding my association, we have a pretty good grasp on some of the relationships in the orders. Used it to finish last season slightly above 1800 points. Granted playing 7 associations that relegated to Gold 1 helped alot. 1600 - 1700, it's really rare to find a very strong tactical group below this season-ending point range in my experience. Isolated good managers do exist, but it's seldom 4+ deep with strong tacticans.

[madflo19]

If most of the top 100 asso managers have figured out how the engine works,they would've probably stopped using any loopholes of this game,but i don't see anything like this;