Stupid game Top 11

[khris]

This is not real life, nor 11 vs. 11, with all irrational things involved in RL football... This is a game, 1 on 1 game... Point of the game should be to see who is better manager, not who is more or less trolled...

Better manager but inside the own game limitations... that are very limited realy... because the simulator don't works with a real logic... of course as u mentioned in the simulation there's a X factor counted that involves the league table situation, and this is chosen when season starts, then each own match have few different scenarios, depending if one manager, both or noone attend and inside the scenarios with the manager watching the game tends to force the manager to "do something".

So this is not about 1vs1 tactics because the game never was designed for this. Theres no influence in the 1vs1 orders when the game set by default in a scenario that, all long passings will not work... or when a player is set by default to, be agressive and receive 2 yellows... same with the passing focussing, which is randomly chosen and all the other stuffs based in internal numbers.

So really, it is a complicated stuff to dont understand a football simulator out of the "tactic logic" but, it have it's own logic, when one understand that, the visual player skills don't have the weight as the internal ones and that, orders are not related with the oppo's settings, exactly...

Then right now "seems like" to minimize the mutants impact with oversized skills, dev's increased the beatability margin, what causes more troll scores.... we could see how some events had 2 different calibrations for the matches too... in one case with a higher beatability margin, allowing some 80%-100%s win 150%s and the second case is when the amount of "scenarios" available in the system are reduced, so seems like many times the matches had exactly the same situations (same red card for same player in 2-3 matches of 5 played, etc)...

IMO as always Ive defended, all started since the limits between skills where eliminated, and, all those extra calibrations made in the regular comp's should not be actually needed... we can understand a "simplifyed simulator" with less scenarios in a particular challenge, indeed, but the regular comp's should be "marked" by the own league rythm, which discounts a 20% each season... and we should count that the the main source used by the simulator to select the "margin" of the scenarios are the players main stars.... despite that, few high skills can fix in a straight way the results... ...with a better calibration, -and skill limits again- troll scores with this simulator should happen seldom....

[Iridensys]

One troll or unlucky match is acceptable.

Not 3 in 7 matches of league.

And it's not correct that absent managers often have good results; I spend time for game for what? The game should reward those present, instead many times there is a manager with a 15% of bonus fan, opponents absent and the result is bad.

[Steppenwolf]

Let's add another game to this thread, just finished... 23% stronger opponent didn't watch the game... They scored header after a corner kick... By all parameters before the game, opponent should win this one, but they didn't... Average rating was on our side, as well as possession and shots on target, but we didn't win... I consider this as a troll against the opponent, they attacked the most of the time, but they didn't win... So it's regular vs. troll 1-2... Opponent didn't watch the game, btw...

[Steppenwolf]

One troll or unlucky match is acceptable.

Not 3 in 7 matches of league.

And it's not correct that absent managers often have good results; I spend time for game for what? The game should reward those present, instead many times there is a manager with a 15% of bonus fan, opponents absent and the result is bad.

With troll games always comes the question: "Why I am trolled and not the opponent"...

[Der_Ryan_M]

Just don't attend matches, I won one of my 2 trebles without attending a single game. And if you loose you can say that you didn't attend and thats why.

[Steppenwolf]

Let's add another game to this thread, just finished... 23% stronger opponent didn't watch the game... They scored header after a corner kick... By all parameters before the game, opponent should win this one, but they didn't... Average rating was on our side, as well as possession and shots on target, but we didn't win... I consider this as a troll against the opponent, they attacked the most of the time, but they didn't win... So it's regular vs. troll 1-2... Opponent didn't watch the game, btw...

Let's take a look at the previous game against the same opponent... They were 26% stronger, but they couldn't get close to our goal for 42 minutes... They barely had few chances... But, after their DMC got red, they started playing like there is 15 of them on the pitch... We had 2 chances only in the next 48 minutes... This is troll... Not by average players rating, we were much better, but how the game treated 26% stronger team... Opponent's manager did watch the game... 3-1 for troll results...

[pcmacdaniel]

It is the time of the season for scripted results. 4th game of the CL and 2nd week of the league campaign are bad about this in my experience.

[NekoIzMase]

No, if you search the forum you can find experiments done about this, we can influence the game during the live match.

I alredy talked about troll matches, i'm not against them unlucky matches are normal in real life

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but the rate of them in T11 (actually) is too much during the season and they need to fix this( like @Khris said time ago )

Red Star vs Liverpool is good example how stats can lie if you didn't watch the game, it's Liverpool who was lucky not to lose by more goals.

[Steppenwolf]

Now a SL game, just finished... Noting unexpected happened here, we were stronger team and performed much better, but this happens rarely... After the worst performance in the season, in the league game, earlier, this was our best performance by far, 8.10 average rating... So, it's 3-2 for troll results...



See how team performance is oscillating, game by game...

[Steppenwolf]

Same opponent, a week earlier, same result... Nothing unusual, deserved win... 3-3, now it's even in regular vs. troll results game...