It seems like Quality, Attendance and Tactics mean Nothing in this Game

[Ποσιδονας]

Watching Tottenham at CL final (and not 15-20% better quality teams like Barca, Real, JUVE, Bayern, PSG, M.City) , as a football fan also felt cheated
At least Liveprool won it.
That's football.

[maloukees]

Watching Tottenham at CL final (and not 15-20% better quality teams like Barca, Real, JUVE, Bayern, PSG, M.City) , as a football fan also felt cheated
At least Liveprool won it.
That's football.

You forgot the best team there Ajax

[nikolgiorgos]

You forgot the best team there Ajax

A good team but not with a 1*-2* quality difference from Tottenham as the other teams @Ποσιδονας mentioned .

Also if you think that Tottenham's latest transfer was Lucas Moura two seasons ago, you can consider them as an abandoned team - lol

[Lucian1986]

Watching Tottenham at CL final (and not 15-20% better quality teams like Barca, Real, JUVE, Bayern, PSG, M.City) , as a football fan also felt cheated
At least Liveprool won it.
That's football.

Note that for Liverpool and Tottenham, they might have won on a fluck, which is why some results aren't terribly surprising. The issue people have is that they feel cheated by the fact that the simulator somehow pre-determines they are going to lose.

Just had to play against two teams in my league. Both teams are 95%, I am 114. I beat both those teams the first time around. We used the same tactics and I dominated both games. I played my normal counter attack, 4-5-1v style with defensive tactics and defensive bonus.

Game 1
We went from 2-0 to 1-1

Commentary - We just weren't lucky today. Note: Manager wasn't there, I had full bonuses and had +15% for attendance.

Game 2
We went from 3-1 to 2-3.

Commentary - Our GK didn't perform. The opponent really impressed. Note: Manager was present but I had +3% bonus.
The worst part was that I took the lead after 25 min and was leading 2-0 and then, an incredible thing happened: he scores 3 goals on counters, even though my team instructions were to defend. WTF??!?!?! How does a team that is set to defend get caught 3 times on counter???

The end result is that now, in my league, I am tied with the second team in terms of points, but I have twice as many goals scored. Also, in 2 games, I was scored twice the number of goals I conceded in 13 games.

This is exactly the problem with the game. When the simulator has determined you are going to lose, it doesn't matter (1) what you actually do or (2) what you have done (i.e. trained your players and put all bonuses on your side). These results feel like the simulator said: "You are winning the league too easily, therefore you need to lose these games to make it exciting."

[gogs67]

. These results feel like the simulator said: "You are winning the league too easily, therefore you need to lose these games to make it exciting."

Funnily enough someone on another thread there was complaining that if they were 12 points ahead in the league then they wouldn't get trolled, it only happens when you're close.
It just shows how differently players perceive the way the game works when bad results happen,
I think the one constant is that negative result = games fault, positive result = good manager!

[Lucian1986]

Funnily enough someone on another thread there was complaining that if they were 12 points ahead in the league then they wouldn't get trolled, it only happens when you're close.
It just shows how differently players perceive the way the game works when bad results happen,
I think the one constant is that negative result = games fault, positive result = good manager!

Not sure that is true. I complained earlier about a result where I won by a heavy margin on two games against an opponent who didn't deserve that. The teams were much closer than this and I seemed to be unfairly favored. When I was up 3-0 after 35 min, I watched the opponent try different strategies to come back into the game but it didn't seem to matter, his players were wandering aimlessly on the pitch.

Also, would it surprise you that I predicted I would lose those two games? I hadn't lost a game all season, only 2 draws and I had a string of wonky results in my favor (defeating two teams within 10% quality of my team by 3-6 goals).

[iansyorkcityfc]

Funnily enough someone on another thread there was complaining that if they were 12 points ahead in the league then they wouldn't get trolled, it only happens when you're close.
It just shows how differently players perceive the way the game works when bad results happen,
I think the one constant is that negative result = games fault, positive result = good manager!

it was me who said about the 12 point lead