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[Tactician]

I have to ask if you have so disappointed in the company and the game. Why do you keep coming back and playing? It is the reason why they know their game is good.

With regards to out to make money. I think many people have mentioned before that every business wants to increase revenue and profits. It will never be enough. There should always be growth in revenue and profits.

From what I read, many have mentioned the game is non pay to win and some even say it is pay to lose. Lol. On top of that, look at the hall of fame and the number of successful managers. I dare say most do not spend a dime. And with that, if you can win every trophy every season just watching videos. I would say it is still possible to be competitive without watching videos. It will be about management. I will be creating a 2nd account and have no intention of watching videos so I will document this. We won't win all trophies but I still think 1 trophy a season is possible for players who do not watch videos.

I do not think they ignore everything that we want but what is requested sometimes only benefits certain segments of users. Like some might not want a more time consuming youth academy as they have to work and have families to spend time with. And many changes requested does not benefit the company bottom line as well. Like you mentioned, it has to beneficial to both users and company.

You mentioned that they implemented many useless things. I agree. But sometimes companies have to test the market.

As long as they do not corner us into spending like some games do. It will be difficult for you to organise a mass stop. And even so, you might not get what you want

This is off topic here. If you want to know in detail why I quit and so on go back to my old posts. There are many reasons why I came back after quitting, but in the end, which means these days, I found out that there is no hope in making suggestions, complaints, discussion and so on about the game, that nothing much will have an effect on what the devs will bring as changes or will not change. Users look more like silly in the feedback area - as if they have been talking to themselves. There were some bad sides of the game way back, but not much for a game of that kind. I was here from when the game was a simple football management with only comments as match highlights (blue version). Then came the live animation things, the bonuses, new training system and so on which is when I made a comeback after logging back to the game to see about the new things out of curiosity. Things were still fine as such though of course there were room for improvement. In fact, this was a big improvement from the blue version, but it only got much worst later with time when associations came, then the greed of the company showed up with many of their changes they made mostly with the business side of thinking (not at all based the users side or their feeback, demands or satisfaction) upto where now we even have bet offers in the game. The problem is that those changes made the game experience worst (not because it required money or anything as such). I played this game in different ways, as a free user, as small token buyer, as a medium one, and even as a big token buyer, and I do not regret anything as such, even those hundreds of USD I spent. There has been no customer respect, importance and so on lately. I even asked for refund once and got it from Google when their game pissed me so much some time back (Guess what pissed me, it was one of their changes that made the game so inconvenient and a pain to play, and the other being the change they made with the game engine to probably cut down resource usage as things got heavy with associations matches and so on). Every change is like completely the opposite of what has been asked, and some things for example the rewards in certain events are like an insult to the customer for the time, effort and money required (really I mean it, an insult).

I say it again - my post was in response to what Dave said, which is like wait for the next version thing, a repetitive scenario that I myself have experienced many times in the past and that what, should we keep on going like this every year working like bots for Nordeus completing their offers but then waiting for the next version (with false hopes)? I told instead that what could be done if users want a proper change. You replied and brought other things which I myself I have not said in there like 'Anyway, many issues you mentioned are not forced upon us. We do not have to buy expensive double SA scouts. We do not have to buy token back inflated auction players. We do not have to spend money or complete token offers. We do not need to watch videos. It is our choice.' I did not talk about that at all here but I had to reply to you.

Do not make the same mistake as Nuno... thinking that the situation at lower levels is the same situation others face in the higher levels. Things are different. When someone complains about something, you need put yourself into his shoes and try see what is the problem and not see things only based on your side and your experience, and then saying as if there is no problem or the situation is not as the user said. In the lower levels, you can get away with a lot of things, but in higher levels not. With time, you yourself will see that. Do you think I am lying by telling you the game cannot be played competitively without green packs? Green packs are needed for a lot of things in this game, the most important is condition recovery (especially when playing in more than 2 competitions, and many already know how fixtures in a day tend to be set close to each other) and secondly is to train players. If they were not needed, then users will not be completing video offers regularly even if they are not playing seriously, tanking or even taking a break. They are literally forced to complete those offers if they want to be competitive.

You just spoke about time consuming in your last reply, what is the most time consuming in this game? It is this f**.... current auction system that requires the user to stick to the screen for hours every day till he finds the desired players. What have they done to improve that despite that there have been several complaints during those years since this thing was introduced? Nothing. This auction system is what made me quit the game one time or more. It is not about the prices but more about the inconvenience and pain to find the desired players to buy. If you have not figured it out, I am not the kind of user looking for 'charity' here. I do not mind paying for things as long as I am getting what I want.

Yeah, that is my point, developments and changes must be beneficial for both the company and the users. Users demand and satisfaction should be very important. It cannot be only 1 sided, but what has been going on for long has been one sided. The worst is that some developments or changes did not even benefit the company (so no side at all) as such as users hardly even used those like the betting offers, highly overpriced daily and recommended players where besides the high price, many do not even fit to the taste of the user or what he is looking for, and so on. So, why even they were put there and still here.? It is like wasting the limited working resources of the company when those resources could have been used for something that users wanted. It is more like some people at Nordeus been fooling the heads of the company making them think they made these developments which will bring a lot to the company when in fact they are failures (and many times some users remind them that they are failures and some even said things like do they even play this game and know how the game works). Like I said, there is clearly something wrong going with this company.