Look at my post above, top eleven said 1 list per season.Quote:
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Look at my post above, top eleven said 1 list per season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hejst
Missed that somehow. Well now I'm a little dissappointed, but still it's an improvement and now that it's there, it can be improved in the future.
I wouldn't really... reach this conclusion. You know the Market players stats are cosmetic, nothing related with the real player performance.. and this can be the same. Usually all academies are fast trainers so let's see if finally there will exist something obvious that can help us to know the individual XP gaining...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tactician
I think they will all be fast trainers, the tokens just indicate the starting %, the same as the system it replaced. (I hope anyway)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sillybq
The 8, 10, 12 token YA players all trained fast, but the less the tokens the lower the staring level.
Add them, so you'll be able to sell them. Players will be added for free in your squad next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by hudai
Not all token academy players (old system) were fast trainers. Maybe you had the impression they were fast because they were progressing fast when you trained them but you should consider that they had low quality too and that many young players will progress fast due to the fact that they are low quality in respective to the level they are on. Some of those 6-8T academy players were not fast trainers as such; I trained two of those that I sign last season this season and their progress were more like medium trainers. Despite that they were in the very low quality area (3 stars) and with low white skills, they were progressing at the speed of what a fast trainer would progress at higher quality (5 stars) and far from what a fast trainer is expected to progress at the quality they were. Those could end more like slow trainers when they will reach the low 6-stars area. The highest token value ones (12-14T) were fast trainers.Quote:
Originally Posted by khris
Wasnt it like this: the players whom has reached at least 75% of their potential will be added to your first team? I think that with free training none of the players will reach 75% of their potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by khris
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no. that was regarding academy players you were supposed to get this season. based on the old system i was supposed to get 2 academy players tomorrow, i got them yesterday because they had reached the 75%. if someone was supposed to get their 2 players next week, they didn't get them (i assume.)Quote:
Originally Posted by FC-Helsinki
It is what I expected too till I was surprised recently when I was training two lower valued ones (6-8T) that I signed the previous season. Their progress in training both for training skills and a special ability per condition spent (or rest packs spent) were far from expectations despite that they were still like raw players (not powertrained or even much trained before - still with low white skills and of course low grey skills). They turned out be to medium trainers or maybe even slower (definitely not first class or second class fast trainers). Their speed of progress was like the speed of what a fast training low 5-star player would have but those two players were 3 stars. Maybe something changed due to the new academy system but only one of them was signed after the new system came. Their market values when they reached a certain quality (4 stars, meaning 5 stars of the previous level) after training confirmed it too - it was like 0.4M less than the value of a fast trainer at that quality - a significant difference in that level. I had academy player that was in the higher price that was sign two seasons before. When he reached that same quality for that same level, his value was 0.4M more. Someone would have expected that a fast training academy player signed on the level after to have a higher value than that of the one that was signed the level before, when both reached the same quality. So, those two players were not fast trainers.Quote:
Originally Posted by gogs67
Even the 12 or 14 token players weren't always the best, at least mine. The token players were never slow trainers but not first class FTs all the time.
Wtf are the players not refreshing in the brilliant, new, awesome and very cheap youth academy??? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...73250f552d.jpg
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1 list of players each season ,clearly explained.Quote:
Originally Posted by FC-Helsinki
So this makes new youth academy absolutely useless rip off. This is the low point even from Nordeus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelpie Grant
Like I or anyone else needs 3 gks. I should pay 5 tokens for st who is expected to be 57% 18 years old player at his best (57% is probably achieved with paying 240 tokens + +200 greens). This is ludicrous!!!
I hope that this is a very bad joke.
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So all 5-6 Token players I have seen to this point are strikers it seems like...
Does anyone have a defender or MC or something who is 6T?
If there aren't it could possibly mean 4T defenders are FTs.
We're talking about Nordeus here. It's entirely possible that there just isn't any FT.Quote:
If there aren't it could possibly mean 4T defenders are FTs.
I don't even have 4T players let alone 6TQuote:
Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M
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Started to take a look at the coaches and... not bad!
So every players has local coaches and u can add coahes to each players for a hefty price but at least I am satisfied with the fact that u don’t have to pay for local coaches!
Now I am hoping that my 2 players really do become 3/4* guys next season for real
It was a good idea to wait... we can find specific positions.Quote:
Originally Posted by CM-16
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yep ,wait a season to get a position you want then wait another season to train him and you get your player. Seems like a long time to wait but isnt in reality. It makes a manager look ahead to what will be needed and plan for that need so this is a good thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by khris
Also with the player training I dont think the coaches price is too unreasonable ,add a local coach to most players and your player comes to you around 80 -85% then throw 50 -100 greens at him and you have a 100% player who is maybe well on his way to an SA or 2nd position. If you are one of these managers who has his team at 120-140% at seasons start then your going to pay more or re evaluate how you might use the Academy.
when you look at the cost of a 95 -99% player on the transfer market then the Academy players at around 20 tokens and 125 greens arent overly expensive , especially if they turn out to be FT or at the least MT players.
My only problem now is that Ive selected AMR and can't switch... xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Kelpie Grant
My feeling is just go with the free options.... test in the season if they are FA if not just sell them
2* are over... the min. Avq of the academies will be arround 70% for both... Now we need the Loan option.... List Youngers on negos.Quote:
Originally Posted by maloukees
U can, khris. Just tap on the AMR logo and change the positionQuote:
Originally Posted by khris
LOL didn't noticeQuote:
Originally Posted by CM-16
Ahahaha, for first 7 day's you pay 15 tokens, at the end you gonna spend 45 token, for the first training method, but last one it's the most beautiful 65x3=195 tokens, for one player 4 stars at the end[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
Each training method it's only for 7 days, not until the end of the season
Thank you nordeus, can I delete academy from my game? Please please please https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...87f141bbd5.jpg
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This is exactly what I explained 100 posts ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mihai Razvan
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I don't care what you explain, I don't read all the post because I don't care
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It is just too expensive, another thing not balanced. The idea is really cool, but then again I can buy a 4 star player 18 yo in auctions for a few token, why would I buy a local coach for 15T and 25 greens if I can't even train the player properly?
Really sad, I hope they make it cheaper and therefore more worth it.
I believe you may be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by FC-Helsinki
It is simple maths. How can that be wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelpie Grant
Are you telling me that it is better to pay 200 tokens + greens for 65% 18 years old than paying 1-3 tokens for the same player in the market?
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you pay 65 tokens+45 rests for a almost 100% player for 1 week, you pay another 130T+90 rests for what i believe to be a 7* player.Quote:
Originally Posted by FC-Helsinki
This is what i understood out of it.
I will receive a 60% ST at the end of the season which i hope will be a FT for 3T.Spares me hours to search it on the market.
In my other thread I just booked head coach and local coach for 80T and 70 greens on my player and he is already 103%.Quote:
Originally Posted by FC-Helsinki
well... we r lowering the prices.... let's not forget that we have 1.000Token players there lolQuote:
Originally Posted by SuperDunk
You should press the tick first to see the benefits of every coach, don't press the price button.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mihai Razvan
Remember you can pay 2.5K tokens for a legend from 6* to 9*, while you can get him there with 300-500 greens.Quote:
Originally Posted by khris
HAHA, unbelievable.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
How can you afford to make tests like this my friend? Is the 103 his actual lvl or the expected lvl?Quote:
Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M
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Expected quality, still 80T and 70 greens for 103% 18 yo player on day 1 is not very bad, but not great either.Quote:
Originally Posted by FC-Helsinki
In comparison to things like personal trainer or some recommended players this is superb.
Because I have many teams and farm Token on them with associations to try out stuff before I maybe do it on my normal team.
In comprasion I just made the player below with total cost of 2 tokens and 100 greens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M
It is still half of the prize youd pay in the youth academy.
I noticed that the expected quality can drop in a youth player as mine has gone from 71 to 65 and from 68 to 65 in 2 of my youth players. Hence I assume that if you wont buy another coach for him. His expected quality will drop from 103%.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...401ea56f9b.jpg
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Yes I still think powertraining is the best and cheapest way to get good players.
But if you are short on greens and want a new player, who can play a few seasons without investing too much, I think this can be a solid option and it should be better than scouts.
