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[Der_Ryan_M]

Very good discussion here guys, but I just want to point out that managers in the game might have gone through different playing phases with the game. There can be times, where a player didn't take the game seriously or had long breaks from the game.

I am actually a perfect example, I play this game for almost 8 years now, started in April of 2013. However, the time when I was starting to enjoy the game, get a lot of knowledge on training and other things, and since then played it more seriously, was about 3 years ago in 2018.
When you take a look in my team showcase, there is a picture from my club history in Level 48, where I had 775 wins, 332 draws and 683 losses with only 12 league titles and 2 CL titles, which is actually horrible and for me would indicate an inactive player (which I probably was up to this point)... I remember when I was playing the game back then, buying expensive 5 star old players in auctions. The first round in cup would almost always be the end of my campaign then and I didn't know, that you could use rest packs for training players.

Today I am Level 84 and my club history is obviously still not the best, however my win % has improved significantly since then. Today I have 1400 wins more compared to my Level 48 stats, while only accumulating another 200 losses, which is actually decent in my opinion. If you only take the last year or so, the win % might even be a lot higher than this, because I had another 3 months break from the game in 2019.

I know some other people, who are like me. Who had this one moment, later in their "career", where they learned a lot about the game and thus improved a lot. Who today are very good managers and didn't want to start a new account just for better stats... So club record might be an indicator for how active someone is, but in higher levels especially, probably not the best. It's just a reflection of your past time. But what matters is the present, the current version of the opponent in front of you. And he might be a lot better than his records might tell. Or he might not be, because he is nowadays only playing the game casually and his greatest times, where he got the maximum enjoyment out of TE, might be in the past.

[EastsiderSG]

Very good discussion here guys, but I just want to point out that managers in the game might have gone through different playing phases with the game. There can be times, where a player didn't take the game seriously or had long breaks from the game.

I am actually a perfect example, I play this game for almost 8 years now, started in April of 2013. However, the time when I was starting to enjoy the game, get a lot of knowledge on training and other things, and since then played it more seriously, was about 3 years ago in 2018.
When you take a look in my team showcase, there is a picture from my club history in Level 48, where I had 775 wins, 332 draws and 683 losses with only 12 league titles and 2 CL titles, which is actually horrible and for me would indicate an inactive player (which I probably was up to this point)... I remember when I was playing the game back then, buying expensive 5 star old players in auctions. The first round in cup would almost always be the end of my campaign then and I didn't know, that you could use rest packs for training players.

Today I am Level 84 and my club history is obviously still not the best, however my win % has improved significantly since then. Today I have 1400 wins more compared to my Level 48 stats, while only accumulating another 200 losses, which is actually decent in my opinion. If you only take the last year or so, the win % might even be a lot higher than this, because I had another 3 months break from the game in 2019.

I know some other people, who are like me. Who had this one moment, later in their "career", where they learned a lot about the game and thus improved a lot. Who today are very good managers and didn't want to start a new account just for better stats... So club record might be an indicator for how active someone is, but in higher levels especially, probably not the best. It's just a reflection of your past time. But what matters is the present, the current version of the opponent in front of you. And he might be a lot better than his records might tell. Or he might not be, because he is nowadays only playing the game casually and his greatest times, where he got the maximum enjoyment out of TE, might be in the past.

That's the problem. Too good a record,even non manipulators get falsely accused. Too bad a record and it shows inactivity. We can't even tell if the inactivity is someone who logs in once a month or someone who was away for an extended period as they didn't use to reset records until recently. Winning at the top of the server is definitely difficult but if you spend a few seasons storing resources like MNK and go all out for a few seasons, you would definitely have a good shot at some trophies. In the end, I have to say winning is not so much skill but activity and consistent effort. For myself, I had a pretty decent record when I did not manipulate. But it also doesn't mean I am skilled at tactics but just that I train my players well which is probably a requirement to be classified as a good manager as well.

Players are gonna get shamed no matter how they play whether it's tanking, manipulating or upselling. Yet by playing normally, you play with unfair draws. I dare say unfair draws cause as many players to quit as loopholes if not more. Many players say they love competition yet end up rage quitting like myself. And yes Der Ryan, I know many players have more interest in their lower level accounts. The competition at higher levels with +1+2 cup and cl opponents is really boring especially when the top level repeats a season. You can't get over the quality disadvantage as top level repeating the season is as good as tanking. They can only hope they get to the top asap to get pass that disadvantage.