Season 165 - Are you ready?

TOP ELEVEN SEASON 165

Thanks to all returning Managers!
and a big Welcome to all the new Managers!

Before we start, here's some questions for you:


What have you learned from last season?
Where did you place last season?

Are you participating in the Association's Cup and Friendly Championship?
What are your achievements with your Club in FAs and FCs?


What's your current level?
What's your budget for this season?
Who do you want to replace?
What are your goals for this season?

What's your training level?
Which will be your main formation?
Have you won the Top Scorer award?



Good luck to everybody this Season!

Take a look at the guides list!

Users Tutorials & Guides vol. II

Communities & Supporters Clubs!

Clubs supporters & Communities - share tournaments!


And feel free to share your team settings, formation tips and more, here:
Share your team Formation and Settings!

fix this stupid game, is that too much to ask? you guys couldn't care less as long as the money keeps coming in, right?

Why is it so difficult to get a league draw correct. 2 teams at 125+ , everyone else around the 100.....same In champs league. No hope of winning anything again

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Originally Posted by pleasures

Why is it so difficult to get a league draw correct. 2 teams at 125+ , everyone else around the 100.....same In champs league. No hope of winning anything again

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Try to promote with a lower quality than 100% so to prevent +1 level teams^^

FIX your crap game, my strikers can't score past a 34 year old , 3 star GK, very poor white skills, he had 9 saves, all my 4 goals were scored by one central midfielder. What a big joke

Thanks yet again for turning my players into hot garbage, you guys are a joke.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyEye

Thanks yet again for turning my players into hot garbage, you guys are a joke.

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Try to follow ma guides. Try a test, vs a 1% team, at least 9 levels lower, so to reach the max. simulator margin which is 9* distance. You will have all your players in the 9* if you do this, so your 4-5* will be equalized with your 9* and you will be able to expose the internal programming of your players.

Do this with the main 11 and too the subs/reserves just to see if the good roles are assigned t players in the bench.

And this is the post 16.000
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Originally Posted by khris

And this is the post 16.000
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you're welcome, and congrats :)

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Originally Posted by khris

Try to follow ma guides. Try a test, vs a 1% team, at least 9 levels lower, so to reach the max. simulator margin which is 9* distance. You will have all your players in the 9* if you do this, so your 4-5* will be equalized with your 9* and you will be able to expose the internal programming of your players.

Do this with the main 11 and too the subs/reserves just to see if the good roles are assigned t players in the bench.

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i tried what you said, i even found 3 fast trainers which i'm training like hell right now for that purpose.

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i tried what you said, i even found 3 fast trainers which i'm training like hell right now for that purpose.

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But what you neeed with the experiment is to try to read the internal roles, so see what player is well programmed by default and where is the team contribution.
Pay atention to those earning a 10 as rating + scoring, and MotM. So you can know what are the players that matter in your team.

ARE YOU F*****G KIDDING ME? why does this crap keep on happening? This bs needs to stop, it has gotten completely out of hand and you Nordeus retards don’t care to do anything about it. My GK can't make a single save yet you turn the other GKs into a monster. Bravo

You guys keep screwing everyone over because of your lame updates, maybe if instead of focusing on gambling events or rigged events to scam players you should worry more about fixing your flawed game. Pathetic on all levels, you guys are a joke

i can't beat a team full of crap players and only 5 of them are great, but because of internal engine, internal roles and blah blah blah, i cant beat a team in 12th place with only 9 goals scored and 7 points, and of course they have the game of their lives against me and when they play against my direct rivals they lose 7-0, 6-0, etc. Of course i get screwed over. Nordeus logic. PATHETIC GAME

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You guys have ruined me yet again in the league, im out of the title race again because of this retard game engine. Scam of a game, eat dirt pls :mad:

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ARE YOU F*****G KIDDING ME? why does this crap keep on happening? This bs needs to stop, it has gotten completely out of hand and you Nordeus retards don’t care to do anything about it. My GK can't make a single save yet you turn the other GKs into a monster. Bravo

You guys keep screwing everyone over because of your lame updates, maybe if instead of focusing on gambling events or rigged events to scam players you should worry more about fixing your flawed game. Pathetic on all levels, you guys are a joke

i can't beat a team full of crap players and only 5 of them are great, but because of internal engine, internal roles and blah blah blah, i cant beat a team in 12th place with only 9 goals scored and 7 points, and of course they have the game of their lives against me and when they play against my direct rivals they lose 7-0, 6-0, etc. Of course i get screwed over. Nordeus logic. PATHETIC GAME

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You guys have ruined me yet again in the league, im out of the title race again because of this retard game engine. Scam of a game, eat dirt pls :mad:

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And thats why Khris suggested to DEACTIVATE th team bonuses and even player bonuses, if a line have any 1-3* player, to compensate this unbalanced situation....
3* defense? no defense bonus available, and player at 0% individually.

We need a criteria for each bonus, too for the Condition one and the Possession one... based on a minium of quality or a proportion, like no posiesion bonus if 9* play with 1-4* .

Is the only way to compensate the simulation.

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Originally Posted by khris

And thats why Khris suggested to DEACTIVATE th team bonuses and even player bonuses, if a line have any 1-3* player, to compensate this unbalanced situation....
3* defense? no defense bonus available, and player at 0% individually.

We need a criteria for each bonus, too for the Condition one and the Possession one... based on a minium of quality or a proportion, like no posiesion bonus if 9* play with 1-4* .

Is the only way to compensate the simulation.

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do you hear yourself? do you even realize how ridiculous this sounds? this is beyond a joke.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyEye

do you hear yourself? do you even realize how ridiculous this sounds? this is beyond a joke.

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Do you understand that to compensate unbalanced teams, there isnt any other way than reducing the beatability margin? what do you pretend then? or better said, how do you think that the engine processes the info to provide you the animaiton? do you think that the engine understands what a formation is? do you understand that the simulation is never a 11vs11 but a simplificaton of it just selecting few players to interact inside the basic margin? This is just a code, lists of players, margins, distances, and you can come here reporting the same 50 times but I recommend you to try to understand the engine process instead. Believe me, there is no easiest solution if you don't wanna see the joke you are reporting and complaining about.

And now you have this with the pay to win, so (picture added)**? another stuff about margins and limits that need to be tackled, because even if you obtain ateam paying the AvQ should be reachable when others train normally so to compete.
All is about the same, distances, proportions and limits inside a season of 28 days. You can't resolve the problem just asking for realism because this neds to be implemented in the code that the engine reads.

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Originally Posted by khris

Do you understand that to compensate unbalanced teams, there isnt any other way than reducing the beatability margin? what do you pretend then? or better said, how do you think that the engine processes the info to provide you the animaiton? do you think that the engine understands what a formation is? do you understand that the simulation is never a 11vs11 but a simplificaton of it just selecting few players to interact inside the basic margin? This is just a code, lists of players, margins, distances, and you can come here reporting the same 50 times but I recommend you to try to understand the engine process instead. Believe me, there is no easiest solution if you don't wanna see the joke you are reporting and complaining about.

And now you have this with the pay to win, so? another stuff about margins and limits that need to be tackled, because even if you obtain ateam paying the AvQ should be reachable when others train normally so to compete.
All is about the same, distances, proportions and limits inside a season of 28 days. You can't resolve the problem just asking for realism because this neds to be implemented in the code that the engine reads.

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laughable game that’s what it is, and the fact that you use every argument possible to defend this game just makes it worse.

Top11 in a nutshell lmao, it deserves 1 star rating

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Originally Posted by JohnnyEye

laughable game that’s what it is, and the fact that you use every argument possible to defend this game just makes it worse.

Top11 in a nutshell lmao, it deserves 1 star rating

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You complain about something Ive commented in the previous post and that Ive already reported by myself -margins, team simplificated as you show with x6 high Q players and 5 low AvQ, so teams with a single 9* GK + 3* defenders and the GK that perform as super GKs etc-, I don't know if you are the same JohnnyEye that was here around 2012 but if you aren't you should learn a bit about how the game progressed these years, and that isn't easy to suggest any alternative in the calibration to make this game work in a more balanced way.

You are basically right and by myself Ive reported all this since time ago as player, because it is a matter of margins.
So, here the point, whats a fair score between the teams you showed? and why? why you expect that score? and, whats your suggestion to fix the scores you are suffering? so to have a more balanced engine, but think that in the end, this can't be a simple complain, it needs to be technically applied, and this is made by calibrating what I'm trying to explain you, parameters.

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Is that your own squad?:cool:

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You complain about something Ive commented in the previous post and that Ive already reported by myself -margins, team simplificated as you show with x6 high Q players and 5 low AvQ, so teams with a single 9* GK + 3* defenders and the GK that perform as super GKs etc-, I don't know if you are the same JohnnyEye that was here around 2012 but if you aren't you should learn a bit about how the game progressed these years, and that isn't easy to suggest any alternative in the calibration to make this game work in a more balanced way.

You are basically right and by myself Ive reported all this since time ago as player, because it is a matter of margins.
So, here the point, whats a fair score between the teams you showed? and why? why you expect that score? and, whats your suggestion to fix the scores you are suffering? so to have a more balanced engine, but think that in the end, this can't be a simple complain, it needs to be technically applied, and this is made by calibrating what I'm trying to explain you, parameters.

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i’m not the same JohnnyEye from 2012, i joined this forum in August 2020. To answer your questions, is the score fair? absolutely not, because i dominated the match from start to finish, but the opposing GK was possessed and my players couldn’t score to save their lives. the deserved result would have been a blowout win for my team, any win for that matter, but definitely not a loss. This has been happening too often to be considered an off day, its clear as daylight there is something very wrong with the game engine and it’s affecting players results and seasons. There needs to be a change

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26.6k tokens :eek:

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Originally Posted by jarharnamme

26.6k tokens :eek:

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and still not enough to rename the players. Khris you suck ;)

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and still not enough to rename the players. Khris you suck ;)

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well how do u think nodeus pay khris to be this forum moderator?
they pay him by tokens not dollar or any real life currencies :rolleyes:

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and still not enough to rename the players. Khris you suck ;)

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well how do u think nodeus pay khris to be this forum moderator?
they pay him by tokens not dollar or any real life currencies :rolleyes:

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This isnt my team lol Ive around 2'5k but because Im not active since few months ago...

the counter attacks in this game are a complete joke, this game is so retarded, how can you have a 4 vs 2 or even 4 vs 1 situation and repeatedly gift the opposing defender the ball, when you have acres of space and a better positioned player to make a pass, not only that but when one counter works the attacker blasts the ball wide or straight at the GK, when all it takes is to go around or place a shot. Countless times my team can score from counters but they gift the opponent the ball and i end up dropping points. Just rename this game to retarded eleven. The worst is having to listen to top eleven apologists still defending this game.

Hi admins, is there any news on update of 3d view gameplay? Unbalanced player ratings in defense and monster GK bug is really starting to annoy me
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you guys are a joke, can this stupid game be any more scripted? your super GK bug is a disgrace, you guys couldn’t care less no matter how many complaints. Even in friendly championship you guys screw me over. i’m in 1st place but this rigged crap makes me lose back to back home games to the 2nd and 3rd placed team, both of them from the same association, my team disappears for some reason in BOTH games. Coincidence? eat dirt you scumbags

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They have invented high shot efficiency. Regularly seen lost games by 75% and higher efficiency (2/2, 3/4 etc). Your 3d view is totally compromised. I'm able to estimate the scripted game results in first few minutes. One of the parameter is how the shots were missed.

Anyone need player for association,my team now is 136%

khris, try to understand us, throw away balancing and similar explanations for minute, simply, we didnt investe time and money in the end to see 180 or 190 % player with high shoot and pass skills with 1on1 skill cant score vs goalie 85% with low skills in 3 counter in row, same as mc pass on player surrounded with def and offside while 2 players are free spaced
It need to be simple, no manager arround, no training, low power = lose, without any crap explanation about balancing, again simple thing weak team is weak team by his manager abstence or choice, no need to balance this
And what me personaly anoying me to the roof is saying after lose that kind of matches that in real life better team lose sometime, but when ppl start to complain suddenly it is all about game engine, scripts etc etc
Game should be simple, value time and effort spending in it, if that mean abandone team 30+% weaker lose 15:0 so be it

That's enough. Here's fresh result that you can see unbalanced player ratings. Please make decent improvements on your 3d view engine. We didn't receive any updates about it since last summer.
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...tml#post691616

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khris, try to understand us, throw away balancing and similar explanations for minute, simply, we didnt investe time and money in the end to see 180 or 190 % player with high shoot and pass skills with 1on1 skill cant score vs goalie 85% with low skills in 3 counter in row, same as mc pass on player surrounded with def and offside while 2 players are free spaced
It need to be simple, no manager arround, no training, low power = lose, without any crap explanation about balancing, again simple thing weak team is weak team by his manager abstence or choice, no need to balance this
And what me personaly anoying me to the roof is saying after lose that kind of matches that in real life better team lose sometime, but when ppl start to complain suddenly it is all about game engine, scripts etc etc
Game should be simple, value time and effort spending in it, if that mean abandone team 30+% weaker lose 15:0 so be it

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I'm agree in that it need to be, basically, intuitive. I always defended thatthe game should keep a easy way to be understood, so, the margins and limits should be perceptible for all.

Remember this is a game, and people don't really want realism, because realism is what the engine we complain about is causing at some point, the non logical scores.
So managers want a proportional scale of performance in reality where logic prevail, the best win, the effort, attend, train, better quality, means a win.

So if you all want the engine to perform more proportionally, without so much drama as we are having since the playstyles and 3D where introduced, you need to understand that this is a matter of calibration of the engine, and its limits...

This is the point:

You say:
Game should be simple, value time and effort spending in it, if that mean abandone team 30+% weaker lose 15:0 so be it

This is your opinion, which I share.

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And what me personaly anoying me to the roof is saying after lose that kind of matches that in real life better team lose sometime, but when ppl start to complain suddenly it is all about game engine, scripts etc etc

Here you separate the real scores that happen sometimes and the current engine, when it is the same, because the variability of the engine, is what causes the scores to look so real.

Here we could enter in the evolution of the own game, and this would end up in a discussion about margins and proportions, because you have a 28 based days game, with the 9* as max star yet since almost 13 years ago, but the skills have been pushed in a unbalanced way without any limit that may provide a fair ambient to compete... you can see that this expansion of the skills margins, is what opened the beatability margin distance, so if in previous versions we had chances against a +30% team, now we can see how the margin is way wider because of the amount of resources that are given each season, first for free, then via p2w.... it is supposed that we should be able to spend all the amount of resources that are necessary to reach a distance where to guarantee a win, but this needs a lot of time and its a impossible.

So we have a drama.

Time to start a new season thread. Happy new year managers! :cool:

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