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    Quote Originally Posted by tomu741 View Post
    I dont understand why they not increase the number of players in the list too.
    Or they better give us long list with something like 1to3 hours of waiting time. That waiting 4 minutes where it is like 0 to 1 desired player ever and ever again is very annoying.
    And for all, getting and raising new players are not interesting anymore just because there is no place to do this .

    They not made anything special or made any good improvements since 2017 with pitch layer change.
    Getting and raising new players isn t fun because most of the 18-19y players you get from the market or academy are slow trainers=surplus of rests and resources to gain as many attributes as the fast trainers.

    I wouldn t mind watching ads 30 mins everyday and training the players if the recruitment of young players that train fast wasn t so slow if not non-existent.

    I haven t had a fast trainer academy player ever since the new academy was reintroduced 3 years ago.

    And i had to wait for hours to buy 3-4* 18y old players in the positions I needed and spent over 25T for each one only to find that they were slow trainers.

    You either get used to the academy players that are slow trainers or you spend more hours on the market than watching matches every month, which is stupid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    Remember that you can manipulate the assistant to get offers with 18 aged players if you already have 1...
    I think it takes in consideration your worst player in first 11 and gives you a slightly better alternative similar in age.

    But you re forgetting that if your player in your first 11 isn t a fast trainer, the recommended player won t be as well.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but i think that s the case, at least from my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDunk View Post
    I think it takes in consideration your worst player in first 11 and gives you a slightly better alternative similar in age.

    But you re forgetting that if your player in your first 11 isn t a fast trainer, the recommended player won t be as well.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but i think that s the case, at least from my experience.
    Didn't pay attention to this fact in reality... I only know that the recommendations are a good players source, I use it often.
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    also whenever i managed to bought 18yo from market they're not FT.
    if you really want to get FT the best chance is bidding for 20-21yo.
    even 19yo mostly not FT. i know this because i have buy a lot of 18-21 3* players.
    the chance for 18yo 3* be a FT probably like 1% and now the frequent it's to be available in market is really low

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarharnamme View Post
    also whenever i managed to bought 18yo from market they're not FT.
    if you really want to get FT the best chance is bidding for 20-21yo.
    even 19yo mostly not FT. i know this because i have buy a lot of 18-21 3* players.
    the chance for 18yo 3* be a FT probably like 1% and now the frequent it's to be available in market is really low
    The FAST TRAINER ladder decreases after 21 years old.
    Peak training can be done between the ages of 18-20y, after that the training rate decreases.
    It s almost unusable after 29y.
    So for me at least 3 seasons with the player from 18 to 20 is a quarter of their career, and i can boost their rating as high as possible and after that just maintain them.

    But for me the process of recruitment was the main reason i gave up for the 4th time on the game.
    Spending hours and hours every day to replace my main players isn t very entertaining.
    In my first comment on this post i was talking about how easily you could buy fast trainers before 2016 with the new market, since every morning at 7 AM Bucharest time at the beggining of the season the market was filled with 18-19y players with abilities and fast trainers.

    For me to continue the level of success i used to have with my account i need 18y players with decent training rate, something i can t find on the market without spending 5 hours everyday for a week, or taking useless academy players slow trainers.

    In my opinion it s enough that i spend 1 hour and a half watching ads and training my players everyday besides watching my matches, and i shouldn't have to spend much time in recruiting my players like i used to.
    The last fast trainer my academy gave was just before they introduced this NEW ACADEMY, after that not one Fast Trainer spotted in 2 full yearrs.
    I m still around, LOL!

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    Only players who are fast trainers in academy are gk for me.
    They need to add bigger lists or/and longer waiting time in transfer market. They need to change negotiation system for sure.

    And for sanity - if i have resources to train my player(s), why they force us to train them so slowly. Training happens for ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomu741 View Post
    Only players who are fast trainers in academy are gk for me.
    They need to add bigger lists or/and longer waiting time in transfer market. They need to change negotiation system for sure.

    And for sanity - if i have resources to train my player(s), why they force us to train them so slowly. Training happens for ages.
    yes. instead they should've take that old GK training loophole and make it so we can train drills more than 6x at once.
    if that's too hard for nodeus then they should've let us decide to increase the drills difficulty from very easy to very hard so it's easier to train the creativity without having to waste cross skill to your players

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarharnamme View Post
    yes. instead they should've take that old GK training loophole and make it so we can train drills more than 6x at once.
    if that's too hard for nodeus then they should've let us decide to increase the drills difficulty from very easy to very hard so it's easier to train the creativity without having to waste cross skill to your players
    ah the good old days
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    So off topic, have you guys noticed that 28-29 yo have lost their charm in performance(scoring goals)? Adil, signed this player in his teens, and was superb in performance even without any boost-up training but from the last 2-3 seasons, he is very average. Attachment 140215 Attachment 140216

    Back in the good old days, a player with good specific attributes performed well even in his last season, like this player David Owen, signed at 19 yo, 84%, trained him well, end up saving the whole team from embarrassing defeats on countless occasions and well most of the trophies are a courtesy to him. A true hall of Famer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xander View Post
    ah the good old days
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    So off topic, have you guys noticed that 28-29 yo have lost their charm in performance(scoring goals)? Adil, signed this player in his teens, and was superb in performance even without any boost-up training but from the last 2-3 seasons, he is very average. Attachment 140215 Attachment 140216

    Back in the good old days, a player with good specific attributes performed well even in his last season, like this player David Owen, signed at 19 yo, 84%, trained him well, end up saving the whole team from embarrassing defeats on countless occasions and well most of the trophies are a courtesy to him. A true hall of Famer.
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    same. it's as if nodeus purposely let the older player be useless eventho their white skill is top tier and still better than other players on the league and own team but that guy just cant score enough.

    he starts to miss freekick which usually ends up with goal, i have to assign other player as FKtaker in d middle of match and 2nd player managed to score FK easily. after the main guy missed out like 2FK in a row (even against super low inactive team cant score regularly)

    i still keep him but he didnt score that much, but the burden of scoring now was taken over by 2nd or 3rd highest attacker.
    if you have only 1 good attacker you're fuked, but i think most who play top11 have 3 great attackers these days
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarharnamme View Post
    same. it's as if nodeus purposely let the older player be useless eventho their white skill is top tier and still better than other players on the league and own team but that guy just cant score enough.

    he starts to miss freekick which usually ends up with goal, i have to assign other player as FKtaker in d middle of match and 2nd player managed to score FK easily. after the main guy missed out like 2FK in a row (even against super low inactive team cant score regularly)

    i still keep him but he didnt score that much, but the burden of scoring now was taken over by 2nd or 3rd highest attacker.
    if you have only 1 good attacker you're fuked, but i think most who play top11 have 3 great attackers these days
    No wonder why my 160% rated player has been underperforming. Think I should start benching him/relieve him of set piece duties. It’s not fair tho.


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