Community Manifesto - Top Eleven 2024

[po_zdrach]

This thread exists for a reason and it is really needed, even more in moments like this.

Do you really think that someone cares about our opinion, Khirs?

[khris]

Do you really think that someone cares about our opinion, Khirs?

Khris* look, guess what, lets develop this deeply because it needs to be extense in some points, and here many of us have been discussing for years so we kinda can talk frankly and honestly between all us:

First, second, and third, all in one;
It's a wrong viwepoint if you think that I write for more people than myself.

People often base their lives on expectations of others, expectations based on what oneself would do, and it is a wrong way of interpreting the world.
In fact, there are people who spend their entire lives frustrated by expectations, they don't realize that they only reflect themselves in others, continually, and with every person they come across.
So they expect others to act the same way they would.
Nobody does anything to them, when they find another person, X or Y, or Z, it doesnt matter as the process its always the same, they simply reflect between each other mutually, without at any time, anything they do with each other, whoever they meet, is personal. There has never been such a term.

So, no, nothing I do has an expectation beyond personal enjoyment. Nai.
Since this is out of my control it would be absurd to carry with it.

I should open a thread to debate existentialism from the most philosophical path...

Or do you think someone does something for you or to you? No. Imagine that you are an X, and if you were Y, anyone else, it doesn't matter who, would do the same, performing in the same way, you understand? So, no, I'm not here waiting, I'm just role-playing. It's the only thing I've been doing, the whole time, here and in every single game I join.

If you understand this point fully, you'll understand that your question has no sense because Khris don't carry with expectations based on decisions of other people who are free to do whatever they want, nor you should do in your own life.

We already have had this debate very often with many guys, which often comes from the need to act in a pedagogical way in a community like what Top Eleven has been for years, with the variety of players of different nationalities, ages, and ideas. It is important to bring up these topics from time to time, because many people do not know how to handle certain situations that involve actions of third parties/persons, and this becomes a soap opera, like a Mexican drama, in the end, when there's no need.

Try to follow my point because we never should forget that you are here because you want, and me too. Or, are you here against your will?


And now lets try to follow with the original topic, there's people willing to share feedback, to express themselves because even if they can't do nothing personally to change the game direction, we are here yet.

[po_zdrach]

[QUOTE=khris;696730
So, no, nothing I do has an expectation beyond personal enjoyment. Nai.
.[/QUOTE]

I thought that you were fighting to change something and just thought about The Serenity Prayer - Oh, God, give us courage to change what must be altered, serenity to accept what can not be helped, and insight to know the one from the other.

But if you do this for "personal enjoyment" there is not matter.

p.s.: sorry for name mistace

[khris]

I thought that you were fighting to change something and just thought about The Serenity Prayer - Oh, God, give us courage to change what must be altered, serenity to accept what can not be helped, and insight to know the one from the other.

But if you do this for "personal enjoyment" there is not matter.

p.s.: sorry for name mistace

I try to bring first a personal viewpoint, second, a feedback that comes from the many chats and groups that I check out time to time.
The manifesto has a touch of my own viewpoint, but includes many notes and points that we discussed privately with managers and too in the community chats, and thats all I can do by my side, move a feedback, or posible solutions raised from my personal perspective on how I would do stuff if I could manage and develop the game on my own.

From that point onwards, we've been here enough time, to know that from what we share in the posts, to what's finally done, there is a gap... and here we have no control over final decisions.

After 10 years there's some players happy with the developement, others play partially different game features like FAs, and personally by my side I think that the game is so far away from what I expected it to be, and the way I expected it to be developed, it has nothing to do with my own idea of what Top Eleven should be IMO, but, I still here because of the people Ive know these years, the dramas, memes, and the fun theres behind the scenes.