Road to Success - How to Win the Cup

[nikolgiorgos]

The general idea is that a team which will finish - last night (the avg of 14 higher q players with contract or not)
... 6* near to 7* (110-120%) in a +1 lv Cup or CH.L.
... 5* to 6* (100%) depends from the LV , the server and luck
... less than 5* ( 80% <) in an easy league and a same/-1 lv in Cup/ CH.L.

Above aren't strict but very possible (for a normal lv, not in the top of the server).

[Palash Mitra]

Nik, so right now I have 6 8* players who form my core team, 10 7*, including 5 subs. And 9 trash players between 2 - 3*'s that I retain over the seasons.

I set the trash team before end of season & have a squad quality between 30 - 50% usually, depending on how many extras I can offload & replace. My A team is usually between 115 - 120 at the start of season.

I'm still drawing against +1 levels in Cup & CL every season. Moreover I have a 145+ title contender & a 180+ tanker in my league this season. The 180+ also knocked me out of the Cup. It's usually the same story almost every season.

Any suggestions on how I can make the draw easier or should I just tank a season & go in with a 140+ team?

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[nikolgiorgos]

If you 're thinking that putting your 2*-3* players in the first squad and the high q players in the bench, just said that this "trick" doesn't work.
The game will "read" the top 14 high q players no matter their positions.
So you must keep 7 high q players and the rest 2*-3* players.
For a test, to have some idea, you must set 6 high q players and 5 low q and see what is the team value against an opponent in a next game.
If your q is low 5* or under, you 're gonna have a good draw meaning
- In your league you 'll avoid those two opponents
- in the Cup also you 'll avoid Jurgen
- in the CH.L. you 'll have same or -1 lv.
The same lv teams won't be monster teams but you might have a high q team from a lv bellow.

They key to success (or at least to have good chances because you know, this is T11 haha) are

- find some young fast trainers and invest to them in the beginning, so to add some extra positions and 2-3 roles.
Add some quality so to have them as 7* the 3rd-4th week of the season and keep them for 4-5 seasons

- sign and keep seven 0T academy players and keep them till their retirement.

- the first day of the season (or 2nd), when you have your team ready, you already have the plan which you 're gonna keep or send at the end of the season and invest your greens by that.

This is my team at day 2 of the season.
I already know whom to keep and whom to sell last day (green - red box)

[Palash Mitra]

If you 're thinking that putting your 2*-3* players in the first squad and the high q players in the bench, just said that this "trick" doesn't work.
The game will "read" the top 14 high q players no matter their positions.
So you must keep 7 high q players and the rest 2*-3* players.
For a test, to have some idea, you must set 6 high q players and 5 low q and see what is the team value against an opponent in a next game.
If your q is low 5* or under, you 're gonna have a good draw meaning
- In your league you 'll avoid those two opponents
- in the Cup also you 'll avoid Jurgen
- in the CH.L. you 'll have same or -1 lv.
The same lv teams won't be monster teams but you might have a high q team from a lv bellow.

They key to success (or at least to have good chances because you know, this is T11 haha) are

- find some young fast trainers and invest to them in the beginning, so to add some extra positions and 2-3 roles.
Add some quality so to have them as 7* the 3rd-4th week of the season and keep them for 4-5 seasons

- sign and keep seven 0T academy players and keep them till their retirement.

- the first day of the season (or 2nd), when you have your team ready, you already have the plan which you 're gonna keep or send at the end of the season and invest your greens by that.

This is my team at day 2 of the season.
I already know whom to keep and whom to sell last day (green - red box)

Hmm k. Got it. Yeah, I was under the impression that either the overall quality or the first 11 (when using trash) is used for the seeding. Meh :/

I will give this a shot next season. Thanks a ton for explaining !

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[Niddhoeggr]

Hi Nik,

I liked your posting but did not react to it it so far. So thank you for your advice

I am planing to try this whole approach because (as you are surely aware of through my other thread) I want to get a better ore more managable draw. Just wanted to leave a "thank you" here and let's see, what the new season will bring.

I created an excel sheet to see how strong my team will be when including my best 14 players while selling a lot of them but I won't come under 95%. I think I will try it nevertheless and see what the new season will bring,

My main issue is, that I am missing really low quality players (from the academy). I will have to gather them in the next seasons and not sell them.

Thanks again Nik! I will probably start a new thread in the forum to display my experiences with this approach.

Best,
Nidd

[nikolgiorgos]

Yes, those academy players you see in my pic (27,29,30 y.o.) aren't 1* but -4*, -6*, -7*
Those are the real "key" players - lol

[Niddhoeggr]

Haha yeah, I'll have to gather them over the time. They do help a lot to reduce the strength I guess.

Best,
Nidd

[Palash Mitra]

Heh my A team right now, after an intensive few seasons is hitting 140+ ratings & the oldest of the lot are a couple of 24, 25 yo, with the bulk U23. So unlikely that I'll be able to implement this right away, as I've worked hard to get them to where they are. I love my digital pixels & can't cut them ruthlessly ! xD

I'll try this on a 2nd team that I'm usually too lazy to operate & check how it goes. For my first team, I suppose I'll continue drawing tankers & ridiculously high rated teams till my team is too old to maintain. -_-

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[nikolgiorgos]

Day 26 of the season and a day before the contest vs Mourinho's team is over.
Here you can see the general avg of the team with 7 low q academy players (plus two academy players of this season which I intend to sell tomorrow).
The quality of the 11th squad is near to 7*, I played and won the Cup final vs a lv below team and tomorrow also I 'm playing vs a -1 lv team in CH.L. final.
League is secure (before 7-8 days), treble is on the table (if not get a hard troll )

[keta]

I wanted to thank all of you who are in charge of creating guides as interesting as this one. Thanks to them I have managed to win the league and for the first time also the cup. The treble was near