Road to Success - How to Win the Cup

[Al Svanberg]

Devil from Missoula- This is what I am doing more or less, also think its the best plan. Here is my team:



The red guys are the 18 y/o's I picked up this season. I get 3 per season. I take them one by one and push to 8 stars, and play very few games with the before they get to 8. I use at least 95% of my Rests on these kids for the first three weeks of the season. I only use rests to heal players for Association games otherwise. And keep my team healed by playing my subs as much as possible, and I also don't hesitate to play tired players against bad league and cup opponents.

The green guys are 19 y/o now, and I picked them up last season. I will spend the rest of the season taking them each to 8 stars. Zinidizu is like 139%, and the other two are 131% and 132%. They have improved from around 121-122% at the start of the season to 131-132% now by just playing games and training without using rests (ie when they get to 99%, I run drills to keep them from hitting the roof). I will now use all rests I get to get them back to 8 stars.

The yellow guys are the ones I picked up 3 seasons ago. I have not used any rests on them at all basically this season. The GK, Christeoletti, is 125%, the DMC Manté is 121% and my DL Roberto Cesare is 128%.

The other 2 are Portugese 22 y/o AMC Niko Candeais and the French 22 y/o DC Liliam Salem.

Candeais is like a machine. I picked him up as a 3 star 18 y/o when I was short on cash, and he has just performed extremely well:


I have not used any Rests on him, but he is still 124%. Next year he will be 105-106% and I will have to powertrain him I think. But he stays fairly on a high level thanks to all MoM.

Next season I will be looking for 2-3 of 18 y/o players in the following positions, DL, DC (a must, its not worth to waste further Rests on Salem and he is falling behind), DMC or GK.

Before the end of this season, I am selling the players underlined with blue. They are guys that played last season for me (the 5-6 stars), and the 3 star players are Free Agents I picked up this year that is retiring. Hence, I will have 12 good players of 14 for my cup draw, and one 4 star and one 2 star.

I still face very tough opponents, this is the guy I faced in the semi's for example:


He was 131% then and I was 126%. Lvl 7 against lvl 5. I think its good to manipulate the system a little bit, because otherwise you run the risk of facing someone you don't even remotely have a shot against (160-180% teams). I am still a lvl 5 manager in a lvl 9 Cup. Lvl 10-11 gets darn tough to be honest.

[Devil from Missoula]

Nice team. And i dont think thats manipulating the game i think its the most fair way to play the game. You build a team for a few seasons and then you winn the game .then you maintain the team at a high level. Its what the top teams do even in real football. Just look at barcelona, arsenal, real m, juventus.... its only **** teams like man city and chelsea that change their line ups every year and hope for the best. Building a dream team take time

[ibangali]

Here I can share mine too

Mid of last season as a lvl 4 manager I was very upset with Nordeus dicing/bad day/bad luck etc things, I lost 5/6 games with low q team, then I decide to quit the game and start to selling my scouts and other best players, when I sell 8 players out of 22, game not allow me to sell rest 14, so I start to buy 3* 33 yo players so I can sell all my players before I leave the game and other manager can use my 6*/7* players. It was taking time then I start to buy 18 yo 3* FT to test a plan, I bought 9 FT mid last season and one scout (9T) last week, spend no rest/green pack, give them 2 extra position plus one sp; last season I didn't use them to play any game but this season I use those FT only cup matches and yesterday they win the final

Here is my 10 FT:



and here is the cup trophy:



I'm planning to stay 2 more seasons in same manager lvl to see without using green/rest how many star can my 3* FT gain, then I might use them on their age of 22 (will come back from hibernation), at age of 22 when they start to play League matches for me I'll start to build my dream team.

[Theo Dinu]

Actually all you need is a ton of tokens, a 6 star overall team quality (preferably 115-120%) and a bit of luck in the draw. Rest is history.

[Toxcatl]

At the end of the previous season I sold almost all my bench except a couple of cripples, but left the field intact. So I had on the field: one 7*, eight 6*, two 5*, on the bench: two 3* and one 2*.
A-a-a-and... I'm level 3 in a cup level 5 xD Good job being greedy, Toxcatl!
Whatever. We'll see who'll have the last laugh!

[nikolgiorgos]

one 7*, eight 6*, two 5*, on the bench: two 3* and one 2*.

you should keep only those

one 7*, eight 6*,

, also keep your 0T academy players from now on.
They 're valuable only for this purpose

[Toxcatl]

also keep your 0T academy players from now on.
They 're valuable only for this purpose ;)

Yeah, and for bonus training ::) I keep them.

[nikolgiorgos]

After some time, this thread needs an update !

So, now at season 89 we have few new things

League draw : The league draw now is starting with the (new season) server maintenance and not day 3.
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...-happened.html

There is a big chance that teams with the same quality put together in the same league. If you want some easy opponents, you must have a really low q team before the new season.
If you have friends from the same server and level, the chances to be together in the same league are very low if you have different quality.
My team RINOKEROS had a strong League, with 12 good teams.
NIK had only 4 descent teams so i made a good record of 26-0-0 plus impressive G.D.


A team with quality above 120% is very possible to face super tanking teams in next season.
That means the next championship will not be in his hands but the mood of the tanking super opponents.
If they will play with their good team against you or your league rivals.

Champions league draw
There are some months where the league winner is placing in a higher level CH.L. next season. It’s not 100% but very possible.
Before 2 seasons, the rule was the league winner in a CH.L. with +1 lv teams which finished 2/3/4th in their leagues.
But from previous season this also changed. A league winner can play with a 2th league winner from a lv bellow.
There is no obvious criterion (despite this comment there).
My team last seasons dropped quality (4* avg) and had good Cup draw but still was playing vs 6*-7* +1 lv teams in CH.L.
My thought is that (maybe) there is some hidden factor for a team. Lucky or not – haha
more details here
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...tml#post443418

Update- the CL draw has to do with the quality only and not the position you had in previous season league.


Cup draw :
It also changed from previous season. The general idea is that you can play with teams from a +- 1 level.
Still dropping quality can help but not so much.
A team with low q can play with low q teams from a +1 lv, when a high q team will play with stronger oppo from +1 lv. A very low q team, can play with high q teams from a lv bellow.
Also can happen to play with the same teams as League or CH.L.
RINOKEROS in the Cup had some teams from that and previous season League, as the team I played in previous season final (all with the same lv and q about 6* ).

If you observe the Cup opponents at day 1, it's very possible to see many of them in your League.


same season league teams

and from previous season


Super league : if you were in a +1 lv CH.L. and finished at 3rd position in the group, you ‘ll continue in a + 1 lv in Super league too.
Of course there, the managers aren’t so strong and active so you can have few more chances to go for the trophy.
If someone made a tanking and win the S.L. , next season can have good chances for the treble as he will start with a good q and gonna play in a same lv CH.L. too.

Another successful method (I used that previous season), is not to win the league cup on purpose, so to avoid next season the +1 lv CH.L.


Of course not to be unlucky too, because it’s not 100% sure.

[nikolgiorgos]

a mini summary

April was the last month of the old version.
I was disappointed from this and with the +1 CH.L. draws (https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...aw-system.html)
and decided to stay for 4-5 seasons.
meanwhile I have read for many "troll" results in the forum and started a thread to search it more.
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...ad-season.html
But it seems that things were about the same, just the usual 1-2 troll results in a season.
Last season (93) I activate the team again, won the league but lost in the Cup final.
Last season I dropped quality (I had many players 8* from tanking those seasons)


bought some new players, played in a same (and -1) LV Cup , the same with CH.L. and won them both.
So I won the treble.


Last day of the season, I also sold some players to go for the next draw with lower q.
From 14 high q players, i kept 8 and those low q ex-academy players


73% is the q of the starting 11

[Niddhoeggr]

EDIT: Nevermind, I saw in your picture that you do that at the last day of the season. Sorry, should have looked closer.

Hi Nik!

73% is the q of the starting 11

73% before the start of the new season or afterwards?

Thanks!

Best,
Nidd