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k1tb Formations after UPDATE 11-18-2017, 07:04 PM
Toxcatl People say 3w-dmc-*... 11-18-2017, 09:48 PM
Toxcatl By 4-3-3 I meant DL-DC-DC-DR... 11-19-2017, 10:43 PM
sling I am confused by the position... 11-20-2017, 04:16 PM
ibangali interesting, you mean you... 11-21-2017, 05:09 AM
Toxcatl As I said, my MR and ML both... 11-21-2017, 11:08 AM
Javert89 As suspected before season... 11-19-2017, 12:28 PM
Cedric This is going to be my third... 11-19-2017, 01:20 PM
k1tb Many have said, that... 11-19-2017, 03:14 PM
Kaizer Franz Nothing has change ,... 11-19-2017, 11:55 PM
gizzmo C'est quoi qui va mal dans ta... 11-20-2017, 09:27 AM
Kaizer Franz Tu vois de la haine partout ,... 11-20-2017, 12:36 PM
Ποσιδονας I believe it changed. Those... 11-20-2017, 06:46 AM
Toxcatl Guys, can you please use... 11-20-2017, 03:27 PM
Kaizer Franz Take care of your a** , i... 11-20-2017, 08:27 PM
nikolgiorgos he is right there is a... 11-20-2017, 08:41 PM
ibangali Cool, sound like its 4-3-2w-1... 11-21-2017, 03:52 PM
Toxcatl If you wish =] 90916 11-21-2017, 06:29 PM
ibangali thanks for the screenshot. On... 11-21-2017, 06:34 PM
Toxcatl I honestly don't know. I... 11-21-2017, 10:24 PM
Toxcatl Ok, today I almost got ripped... 11-22-2017, 07:28 PM
pcmacdaniel I had a good long... 11-23-2017, 02:01 AM
Jean.Monico Humm. Good point. What... 11-23-2017, 01:12 PM
pcmacdaniel depends on the opponent. ... 11-23-2017, 09:49 PM
Jean.Monico I gotta agree with you. I... 11-23-2017, 01:09 PM
Toxcatl I'm confused, have you mixed... 11-23-2017, 02:59 PM
pcmacdaniel Just seeing this, sorry. ... 11-24-2017, 05:14 PM
mikebokoyo1googlemail.com This update... I've lost... 11-22-2017, 02:14 PM
Toxcatl I'd like to play friendlies... 11-23-2017, 09:36 AM
Jean.Monico ;P I'll make it shorter. I... 11-23-2017, 03:34 PM
k1tb 4-5-1 V style is working... 11-26-2017, 08:14 AM
pcmacdaniel Regarding 4-5-1v style, in... 11-27-2017, 01:36 AM
Toxcatl Today I played three games... 11-26-2017, 11:08 PM
Jean.Monico Did you notice any strange... 11-27-2017, 03:27 PM
Toxcatl No, I haven't. Some games are... 11-27-2017, 03:52 PM
Toxcatl *Bzzzzz...* 11-27-2017, 08:27 AM
Ποσιδονας @Toxcatl In your pic, your... 11-27-2017, 08:37 AM
Toxcatl That's because I'm facing a... 11-27-2017, 09:22 AM
CMA FC I have thought about the... 11-27-2017, 11:17 AM
Toxcatl I have no idea tbh. It is... 11-27-2017, 12:12 PM
Willyw Same like toxcatl, if i have... 11-28-2017, 11:49 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxcatl View Post
    Ok, today I almost got ripped by a guy 12% weaker than me.
    4-4-2 against my 4-3w-2w-1.
    I started with normal/mixed/off everything except counter-attacks. % of completed passes was good after 10-15', so I switched to Long. Statistics at that point was slightly at my advance, but he scored with his 1st attack, and everything has changed.
    I suspect he used high pressing and definitely short passes.
    I switched off counters (AM told me they don't work), and set High pressing. No visible result.
    At the start of the 2nd half he already had better statistics than me, except possession. I returned to low pressing, but set m2m instead, and also Short passes. I managed to score closer to the end of the game, and statistics was again slightly in my favour.
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    I suspected before that High pressing works good against Long passes, and m2m against Short, and I think it's true. I am not 100% sure, of course.
    I had a good long conversation with a top 11 friend (he isn't a forum member) about a year back about this topic. We were trying to figure out which orders played well against a different set of orders.

    If orders indeed can be countered, there is one thing is certainly means. Normal mentality and mixed passing are the two stable things in the game engine. Lets apply it to your theory on a relationship between pressing and passing type. If high press works well against long passes and m2m works well against short passes, then what works best against mixed passing?

    Normal and mixed consistantly get stuck in the middle, being well umm... tactically neutral. They would have to be more resistant to troll results than others order pairs if orders can indeed be countered.
    Last edited by pcmacdaniel; 11-23-2017 at 03:58 AM.
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