Formations after UPDATE

[Jean.Monico]

;P
I'll make it shorter.
I thought High Pressure was good against short pass, but I was wrong. High pressure is good against long pass. That's why i agree with u ^^
(and ill test it in a match in 5 minutes. My opponent have been playing long passes his last matches. So i'll try to use high pressure on him ^^)

[k1tb]

4-5-1 V style is working pretty well, but I haven't find the "right" orders to my team. It seems that V-Style is good balanced formation.
I don't want to play only with counter attacks, but V-Style is mostly a counter attacking formation? Any suggestions?

Before update it was easy setting up orders for V-Style, but after update....

// Also I have noticed that many managers are using 4-2-3-1 formation. It is balanced and working well. As it has strong defense and also very good attack. You can use counter attacks with this formation as well as you can play without them. 4-2-3-1 seems to be as 4-4-2 was @ the old version ( 2017 ) .

[pcmacdaniel]

4-5-1 V style is working pretty well, but I haven't find the "right" orders to my team. It seems that V-Style is good balanced formation.
I don't want to play only with counter attacks, but V-Style is mostly a counter attacking formation? Any suggestions?

Before update it was easy setting up orders for V-Style, but after update....

// Also I have noticed that many managers are using 4-2-3-1 formation. It is balanced and working well. As it has strong defense and also very good attack. You can use counter attacks with this formation as well as you can play without them. 4-2-3-1 seems to be as 4-4-2 was @ the old version ( 2017 ) .

Regarding 4-5-1v style, in real-life it might be solely a defensive formation, i'm not sure. In this game, it's very effective as an attacking formation. I personally believe 4-5-1v attacking is one of the most dangerous tactics in this entire game, because most managers play it defensive I think, so it creates a scenario where the opponent is expecting their opponent to be using a defensive/neutral counter-attacking strategy and plan accordingly, and are blindsided by the attacking v-style.

I'm not sure the game engine knows the difference between defensive and attack mentalities. I think their are is a spectrum between neutral orders and extreme orders, with normal/mixed being the most neutral and hard attacking short/long pass and hard defending short/long pass being the most extreme. Neutral orders like normal/flanks/mixed/off/high/normal/zonal/off will should stabilize the engine and decrease the odds of a troll result. Whereas going towards the extremes will both increase the odds of winning as a 30%+ underdog and losing as a 30%+ favorite.

Here is my club history, it's just my attempt to establish some credibility. I understand others have a good history in this game and may disagree with me. But hopefully this at least helps result in my ideas being given some thought, even if it results in them being proven false.

[Toxcatl]

Today I played three games against more or less equal teams and one against -15%. I used this formation with Attacking mentality:


I'm not gonna give other orders, because I don't believe in preset orders. I start with everything mixed/off and change them during the game.
My opponents were 451v twice (asso), 4-2mc-3-1(very chaotic positioning in attack) and 4-4-2 (the weaker team).

The results were astonishing, especially in asso games. In those my opponent was present, but I have won in both games, 7-1 and 0-5. Statistics was in my favour too. The other results are 7-1 again and 6-1.
I am more and more sure that M2M is better against Short passes and High pressing against Long, but maybe I just see what I expect to see. We, people like to do this.

Today was the most productive day of this season. Or maybe ever, if I take into account my opponents' quality. Sometimes I feel like I know this game. I know I don't, but it feels like it =]

It wasn't their day.

[Jean.Monico]

The results were astonishing, especially in asso games.

Did you notice any strange results in asso matches?
My association, since the new update, is like the following: or we win 36-0 or we lose 0-36. And all matches are like 4-0 5-0 5-1. Seems that who has more managers online during the match is winning ;O

[Toxcatl]

Did you notice any strange results in asso matches?
My association, since the new update, is like the following: or we win 36-0 or we lose 0-36. And all matches are like 4-0 5-0 5-1. Seems that who has more managers online during the match is winning ;O

No, I haven't. Some games are hard, some are easy, sometimes they manage to save the situation, sometimes we do. Same as always I'd say.

[Toxcatl]

*Bzzzzz...*

[Ποσιδονας]

@Toxcatl
In your pic, your DC is allone vs two ST but I think this box is brighter than the box of your ST facing only one DC

[Toxcatl]

@Toxcatl
In your pic, your DC is allone vs two ST but I think this box is brighter than the box of your ST facing only one DC

That's because I'm facing a very weak team today, like 65% (I'm 115%+). Also my DL and DR both can play as DCs, and they're staying close to the border, so they add possession too. Oh, and my DMC can play DC as well =]
It's an illusion I have only one DC on this picture. Actually I have four, lol.

[CMA FC]

I have thought about the thing M2M against short passes and High Pressure against long passes and counter attacks. It’s easy to find opponent’s passing tactics watching the completed passes stats. Now: what if I want do the opposite in-match: state a passing tactics (long/mixed/short) that works well against my opponent’s defensive tactics? How can I find out if my opponent uses low or hard pressing style, if he has counter attacks on or if he uses zonal or M2M?


Carlos

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